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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
I'm betting that if you did another coat of NXT before 24hrs, it wouldn't hurt anything...
So now we are willing to go against the information provided directly from the manufacturers tech line. It may not hurt anything but, since the manufacturer said wait at least 24 hours before applying a second coat... doing it sooner... will it do any good?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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You need to wait for 24 hours to lets the polish dry and cure. If you want multiple coats, then get Zaino with their ZFX flash cure additive. Even then they reccomend waiting 6 hours before applying the next coat. If temp is below 70, you may have to wait longer that 24 hours.

You won't harm anything by not waiting, but I don't think you will achieve max shine or protection.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by asodestrom
You need to wait for 24 hours to lets the polish dry and cure. If you want multiple coats, then get Zaino with their ZFX flash cure additive. Even then they reccomend waiting 6 hours before applying the next coat. If temp is below 70, you may have to wait longer that 24 hours.

You won't harm anything by not waiting, but I don't think you will achieve max shine or protection.
I agree. Zaino with ZFX additive, instructions say to clean out bottle of any unused product as, after 12 hours, if there is any product in bottle, you'll have to throw the bottle away. That, in itself, tells me multiliple coats of Zaino will in fact layer for deeper shine and extended protection.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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i use zaino z2 and z6 on my S new one had it 7 weeks now and it is a daily driver...after the last application of z2 z6 i put some NXT spray on my micro fibre towel and put that on and wow!!!!!!!! i have been using zaino for over 3 years now and it never looked as good had black cars in past my S is pepper white and wow!!!!! NXT seems to be good stuff only time will tell...i do not know if the combo of the two was the diff but what a shine will post some pics soon (i hope)
 
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rcoopers
i use zaino z2 and z6 on my S new one had it 7 weeks now and it is a daily driver...after the last application of z2 z6 i put some NXT spray on my micro fibre towel and put that on and wow!!!!!!!! i have been using zaino for over 3 years now and it never looked as good had black cars in past my S is pepper white and wow!!!!! NXT seems to be good stuff only time will tell...i do not know if the combo of the two was the diff but what a shine will post some pics soon (i hope)
You don't need the Zaino to get an incredible shine with NXT.:smile: Great stuff!!

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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Truth be told, I am not one to spend a lot of time washing/waxing/polishing. I had been using the Eagle 1 Wax-u-dry, and thought it wasn't bad.

After reading this thread, I thought I would try the NXT. Well, the Mini looked great, and being LY, that's not always easy! In fact, I was holding off taking the car out of the garage, just to keep it pristine. However, I went to an event 30+ miles away, and ran into rain. It rained about 3 hours, then I returned home, the rain stopped during the return trip. I expected accumulated road film dirt and streaks would make a mess of my nice new NXT wax job.

Next morning I was very pleased that the car looked fantastic! The only area in need of attention was the windshield bug splatters. The rear did pick up some dust/dirt, but a little dusting and Sunny is as bright as ever. I really like this NXT stuff. I will be interested in some of the new competitors, from Eagle 1 and turtle wax, that are coming out. But NXT is my new preference.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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I've been very happy with Klasse and S100 (P21S), but was curious to try NXT because of all the hype. Well, I like it. It was easy to use, but I was paranoid about getting it on the black trim, which I never usually worry about with Klasse and S100. The results were very nice. Very pleased with the appearance. But after a day and a half it seemed like a dust magnet ( I have a black car), so I topped it off with S100! It still looks great and topping it off helped with the dust.

The durability of NXT seems to be the big question. The reviews are mixed. Some say it lasts months, some say days! I'm sure it's somewhere in between. Carnauba wax usually lasts about a month so if NXT is the same, it's not that big of a deal. Anyone know if Wax-As-U-Dry is similar to the NXT Boost?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Here's a good endorsement of the NXT wax - My MCS is an 02, August build with about 34K miles. I've *never* waxed it once, since delivery. It's my daily driver, and I commute about 50 miles R/T per day.

Anyway, after reading about the NXT here, I bought some and gave the car a good going over (claybar first, then NXT). It looked *sharp*. The next day at work, the garage ticket taker commented "That car is beautiful!".

2 weeks later, I entered the MCS in a local car show, first time I've ever done anything like that. They had about 300 cars in the show, and my MCS won 2nd place in class. Not too bad in my opinion, especially since the first place winner was a 2001 Lotus Esprit that looked like it just rolled off the showroom floor. For the >$60K difference in price I'll be happy with 2nd place.

YMMV, but I'm really happy with the NXT wax.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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I Quik Detail my car every day, actually multiple times a day. Basically everytime I come to a stop, I'm wiping off the dust. With this sort of cleaning, it's easy to tell when the NXT needs to be applied again. With a good NXT application, Quik Detailing just glides right off. Overtime, the slickness diminishes, and you can feel more drag. This is when it's time to add another NXT coat. For me, this is about once a month. Now granted, most people don't wipe down their cars like I do, so the length of your protection should be much longer.

What I do though is instead of a full NXT application, I'll apply some NXT Spray Wax, and that'll easily give me a few more weeks of protection, before I do my NXT DA again.

Again, this "short protection time" is really more about me babying my paint, and shouldn't be used as "proof" that NXT doesn't offer much protection.

I love my NXT!

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Originally Posted by greg67
The durability of NXT seems to be the big question. The reviews are mixed. Some say it lasts months, some say days! I'm sure it's somewhere in between. Carnauba wax usually lasts about a month so if NXT is the same, it's not that big of a deal. Anyone know if Wax-As-U-Dry is similar to the NXT Boost?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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My experience with NXT has been excellent. It has made my 69 Chevelle look better than anything I've tried and that covers a lot of stuff. Seems to last for at least a couple of months and much longer if your judgement is the ability to make water on the car "bead". Of course reapplying NXT after a month or so can make the paint look even better. Meguiar's is to be congradulated.:smile:

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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatsix
Once again, i have to say how much i Love this stuff! I just got done with another coat this morning and alas, it looks deeper and deeper it seems like each time i apply a coat. Ive waxed it at least 3 times in the past week! This stuff really is awsome.

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Scott, my man, you should have told me you were wanting to try NSX... I would have GIVEN you some. Yes, I was initially impressed with it as well but the shine is due to the heavy content of silicone polymers. That's not a bad thing, but, since these oils are mobile they dissipate quickly. My tests with NXT show that the shine degrades quite fast and the durability is ok, but certainly not in the league of a water based polymer like Zaino or an acrylic like Klasse.

Some other mis-information in this thread: claying doesn't strip all the wax off the surface if you are prepping the surface for a new sealant. It will abrade it but only a thorough wash in something like an alkaline Dawn will remove it.

DON'T apply sealants over carnaubas. They won't properly bond to the surface and the durability will be shot.

Carnaubas will start to degrade almost immediately.

Applied properly, Zaino takes 15 minutes to dry. But ambient temperatures can change the times somewhat. The absolute biggest problem is that most people apply Zaino too thick. It only needs to be applied super thin. (I can cover a MINI more than twice with an ounce of Zaino.) If you can see white stripes of Z2 or Z5 on the surface from your applicator you are doing it too thick. And Zaino is one of the easiest waxes/sealants to polish off. Just let it dry. If you can wipe off all residue with a single swipe of a finger then it is dry.

You do NOT have to wait hours to apply multiple layers with Zaino. You can do one right after the other with ZFX.

People always say Zaino is expensive. I don't get it. Cost per application is probably less than anything on the market because it lasts so long between necessary applications.

(I don't want to come off like a total Zaino zealot but I do have a lot of experience with it and I have run tests on it and over 35 other waxes and sealants.)

Now, the question "I" need an answer for: "HOW THE HECK DO WE KEEP THE BACK OF OUR MINI"S CLEAN FOR MORE THAN AN BLOCK?" Arrgh!

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BradB
Now, the question "I" need an answer for: "HOW THE HECK DO WE KEEP THE BACK OF OUR MINI"S CLEAN FOR MORE THAN AN BLOCK?" Arrgh!

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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BradB
Now, the question "I" need an answer for: "HOW THE HECK DO WE KEEP THE BACK OF OUR MINI"S CLEAN FOR MORE THAN AN BLOCK?" Arrgh!
Not to derail the thread I started, but I read somewhere (on NAM I think) about the rear diffusers causing less dirt and grime to the boot door. The idea being that MC drivers notice no trouble with their boots being dirty while MCS drivers do. Main difference in that area is the spoiler. The spoiler causes the boot to get dirty quicker.

Here is a picture of one diffuser by Hamann. It's the spoiler looking thing between the tires. At $499.95 it's a bit expensive.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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Well that's a bunch of baloney. My MC boot is Always covered in dust. I wipe my car down everyday, and the first place that atracts dust and dirt is his bum!

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The idea being that MC drivers notice no trouble with their boots being dirty while MCS drivers do. Main difference in that area is the spoiler......
 
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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Well that's a bunch of baloney. My MC boot is Always covered in dust. I wipe my car down everyday, and the first place that atracts dust and dirt is his bum!
That may be true, but I think the point was that the MCS boot gets even dirtier. Or so I read. Wish I could find where I read that....

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OK, I went back and did some searching. I think I may have misread or something. I did find some posts saying they thought it helped, but most people said it basically did nothing.
 

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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Another thought on NXT...

Our 1st MINI and 1st post:
Only had MINI now for 2 weeks and used NXT 1 week ago because of posts here and on other forums AND because was readily available. Product was easy to work with and so far so good.

Have some 'dealer applied' swirls and still researching best polish to use for that...?

We also used NXT vinyl, rubber protectant AFTER wax application and had ZERO problems with wax residue on all the trim. Applied this first wax coat by hand but didn't worry about getting some on trim after testing a spot first. Excess of protectant wipes right off with MF towel and blends just fine with NXT wax. Doesn't hurt chrome or glass either.
Tip: best applicator for protectant was a small piece (2x2) of a natural sea sponge. A little goes a long way!

We have Indi Blue Cooper with white top and white WHEELS!!!
Not to go too far off thread but after last several posts...

Question I have is - anyone waxing their wheels with NXT also? What are you white wheel owners doing about cleaning these babies? Tried Eagle One A2Z after Guru report and NOT impressed? What tool works to 'get in there'? Have some 'pitting' or 'spots' happening already and don't want to be using a strong cleaner every weekend...Anything other than clean wheels work to keep brake dust from making an ugly mess?
 
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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I have been a Zaino nut for many years and put many, many coats on my other cars- waiting for my '05 MC- I also recently tried NXT and found it easy and cheaper, what concerns me most though is what most of you are saying about not getting ANY NXT on the trim- while someone mentioned they did get Zaino onthe trim and no problem.

It seems to me it would be a major hassle to mask off the trim each time I wax, and to be so very careful is next to impossible, so with that in mund, is Zaino better for ease of use at least?
 
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Blu Frnz2
Our 1st MINI and 1st post:
Question I have is - anyone waxing their wheels with NXT also? What are you white wheel owners doing about cleaning these babies? Tried Eagle One A2Z after Guru report and NOT impressed? What tool works to 'get in there'? Have some 'pitting' or 'spots' happening already and don't want to be using a strong cleaner every weekend...Anything other than clean wheels work to keep brake dust from making an ugly mess?
NXT is not very heat resistant and has not been proven to be very durable. Yes, it will absolutely help, but a sealant more durable polymer such as Klasse or Zaino will last longer. But, you have NXT. Use it. Inside ant out.

A2Z is a good cleaner, but strong. Wax the wheels well and you will easily be able to clean with a quality auto shampoo. My car, and wheels, are sealed in Zaino. Very durable, and super slick. I also wash with Zaino shampoo. When I am done doing the car I do the wheels. I dip my foam bottle brush and/or soft hand sponge in my shampoo bucket and wipe down the wheels. Presto! Super safe. Super shiny. Super slick.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hjacobs475
I have been a Zaino nut for many years and put many, many coats on my other cars- waiting for my '05 MC- I also recently tried NXT and found it easy and cheaper, what concerns me most though is what most of you are saying about not getting ANY NXT on the trim- while someone mentioned they did get Zaino onthe trim and no problem.

It seems to me it would be a major hassle to mask off the trim each time I wax, and to be so very careful is next to impossible, so with that in mund, is Zaino better for ease of use at least?
I find it much easier for this reason. Plus the fact that you don't have to re-apply it as often to keep the shine up. And I much prefer the slick Z feel.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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Brilliant stuff - and it lasts forever! Now I can wax only once a month and have more time for driving.:smile:
 
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Blu Frnz2
Question I have is - anyone waxing their wheels with NXT also? What are you white wheel owners doing about cleaning these babies? Tried Eagle One A2Z after Guru report and NOT impressed? What tool works to 'get in there'? Have some 'pitting' or 'spots' happening already and don't want to be using a strong cleaner every weekend...Anything other than clean wheels work to keep brake dust from making an ugly mess?
I used to use Zaino and now I've switched to NXT. I've used both on the white wheels. Both work well. I clean the wheels when I wash the car, using the water left over in the bucket once I'm done with the rest of the car (this way the brake dust stays only on the wheels). I use a dedicated terry-covered sponge just for the wheels. The dust comes off easily with just plain car wash suds and water.

I've got some pitting and spots too. I think it's unavoidable unless you just don't drive your car. When I do wax the wheels, they look great, even with the few spots and pitting! I've tried wheel cleaners and other kinds of harsh cleaners, and nothing works as well as (mild) car wash and a little elbow grease!

One thing you can do to cut down on brake dust is to get new pads. I've got the EBC pads and they really help. You still get some dust, but after two weeks of driving the wheels are still recognizable as white, instead of looking silver... I've used my cleaning/waxing method with both the stock pads and the EBC pads. It works equally well with both, but it's less work with the EBCs.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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Wheel cleaners

I also don't want to derail this post as it has been informative. I just came back from purchasing some of the NXT Wax and booster wax. Can't wait to try it.

Regarding cleaning wheels. I have holeys and they seem to collect alot of brake dust as it seems all of the mini wheels do. Being a motorcycle enthusiast I have been using a product called Honda Polish. I've used it for years on my bikes wheels, bodywork and trim. It is great stuff. Not a wax but a great cleaner/polish and protectant. I used this on my holeys after I had neglegted them for some time and the brake dust came right off. Even better the next time I sprayed off my car it only took a breif wipe and the wheels were spotless. Now I Honda polish my wheels every two or three washes and the wheels are no longer a problem. You can purchase this stuff at any good motorcycle dealer. Hope that helps and thanks for the NXT recommendation!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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Thx to everyone with the white wheel problem / solutions.

Great to know have a place to go for help with these issues!

Happy Motoring!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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I've been following this thread for a while...

I was a former Zaino user.. but as many before me ran out of product and now debate whether or not to spend the money on some more.

i tried the Eagle one NANO wax and found good results.. and just got some samples of meguires nxt. Unfortunately it's not really available in Toronto but we did manage to get some samples at a Southern Ontario Club meet., thanks to a friend .

for the folks who have problems getting the wax on the trim I have a suggestion not sure if it will work but it may.

Mr. Clean Magic Eraser (Wonderful product) takes away scuffs etc.. I have used it everwhere and I would think that it may work on our trim pieces as well!

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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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I just waxed Peanut this weekend. Got a little NXT on the trim, it wiped off, even after drying a bit, with no problem. I've been using Meguiar's Trim Detailer on the plastic trim for a while and I think it's 'sunk in' and made the plastic more resistant to wax penetrating it. Those of you who worry about getting wax on your trim might want to use some trim detailer regularly...
 
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