Oops! Thank you for the correction!
I couldn't find the picture of the spray wax on the Meguiar's website.

 

Yeah it's hard to find. It's here:
http://tinyurl.com/3yu5k
or
http://tinyurl.com/389qd

Its in the Automotive Appearance Care/Paint Care/Car Wax and Protective Coatings right below NXT Tech Wax.

 

Hey guys...put a coat on of this stuff on my new BRG Cooper and it works pretty well. I probably will put on another coat later today, so we'll see how it looks after that . Anyway, this is a noob question, but can the windows be waxed????

 

Thanks, Octane! OK, here's the right picture of the NXT spray wax.

 

This product sounds very promising, will have to give it a try. I am currently using Zaino's complete detail products and I think it's way too much of a hassle. I am spending at least 4 hours everytime I want to polish my car with just 3 layers. That includes claybarring the car everytime. Still, that is too much time invested in polishing, in my opinion. If I can get close to the effects of Zaino with this NTX product, I think I'll ditch the hassle and high price of Zaino.

 

OK, the age old debate, carnuba or synthetic. But, not the debate in the traditional fashion. I ran out of Zaino recently and live in NJ, so couldn't order online. I heard about the NXT stuff. Went to 3 local automotive stores (Pep boys, R&S, AutoZone) all were out. So I bought the Gold Class, figuring hey, its Meguiar's, it's in a box, its 'spensive, it must be good. Well, it is good, not great. Plus, its carnuba based, not synthetic. A friend of mine (audi buff) told me I cannot apply the NXT stuff over top of carnuba, I have to wash with dawn to remove first. Then, I should claybar everything to be sure its all gone.

What do you all think, just throw the NXT on, or go through all the work?

Also, what kind of job does this do on swirlies, if I go with an orbital buffer, will it do some removing (or masking) of the swirls?

And, what pad do you all suggest for the buffer for this kind of application?

 

Your friend is right. You'd want to get rid of the coat of old wax before you start with the synthetic stuff. Using Dawn (the original Dawn) will ensure you get all of the old wax off, but claybarring should have the same effect. Claybarring will remove all the cantaminents and leave your car glass smooth. It would be easier to apply wax or polish after your car has been claybarred. Hope that helps.

 

Dangit, so much for bein lazy.


Just because I'm curious, why is this, will the synthetic not stick to the carnuba?
C'mon Mr. Wizard, please tell me

 

Once again the great folks on this site have led me to a wonderful product. I helped my son with his 95 Honda this weekend. After washing, claybaring and polishing the crud off the car from sitting outside for 4 years, I talked him into finishing it off with NKT instead of Zymoil. What a huge difference. It's absolutely amazing how easy it is to put this stuff on and take it off....... and the shine on his black car is so deep and rich that it makes it look like new. I'm switching next time my MCS needs waxing.

 

Once again, i have to say how much i Love this stuff! I just got done with another coat this morning and alas, it looks deeper and deeper it seems like each time i apply a coat. Ive waxed it at least 3 times in the past week! This stuff really is awsome.

-scott

 

Where did you get the idea that you have to claybar every time you add coats of Zaino? You don't.

 

I will add another wrinkle to this thread, and maybe start another, but Klasse is a pretty good product also. You asked about waxing your windows. Klasse all in one is truly an all in one product. Great shine, it works great on glass also. I have put it on my glass after a wash, and aslo put a few capfuls in a spray bottle and use it as a window cleaner. The real bonus to Klasse is it cleans and protects your plastic trim. Better than peanut butter, better than back to black, better than anything I have found.

My favorite products, not necessarily in order.

Zaino, I like to pamper, so the extra effort is OK. A tad better shine IMHO than others. Hardest to find, most expensive.

NXT Easiest to apply, easiest to find, least expensive. Great shine.

Klasse almost as easy as NXT, price is between Zaino and NXT easier to find that Zaino. If I could have only one product this would be it. Cleans, shines, protects, does glass, plastic trim. Downside. I don't like the smell.

If you don't have Klasse, and like to try different stuff, get a jar and try it out. They also have a glaze that I haven't tried yet, but I plan to.

Andy

 

Scooterboy, I never said it was neccessary to claybar the car everytime I polish my car with Zaino. But after 3 months contaminants builds up and I claybar so that my car is smooth and shinny.

 

Oh my! How funny! That's my car (you can kinda see me). :smile: You can see the huge difference in the shine...bonnet done, boot still has wax. I no longer tape off my car either. Once you get a feel for the DA you can pretty much let her rip and your done!

I'm not too sure of waxing your windows but I tend to just go over my chrome and it's perfectly fine.

PS - I highly recommend Richard's DVD. Very helpful!

:smile:

-Cyn and Cricket

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Sorry I misunderstood you. Most Zaino accounts I've read are from people who put on additional coats of Zaino numerous times throughout the year but only claybar and start from scratch once a year. You didn't previously mention how often you polished, so it sounded like you were unnecessarily starting over every time.

It might take me 3 hours to put on 3 coats of Zaino, but that's 3 elapsed hours, not 3 hours worth of work. I put on a coat, go away and do something else, and 40 minutes later I buff it off. I do that 3 times, and it's probably only 1 hour of actual work, spread out over 3 hours. And I find Zaino very easy to apply and buff off.

But I think when I run out of it I'll give the NXT a try. Without trying both of them, it's impossible to decide which one is better.

 

Creamy or super chunk?

 

Here's what I think.

Just put the NXT on the car, you'll never be able to tell the difference compared to washing the car with Dawn before applying the NXT.

Use the extra hour for more motoring.

Or you can do what the guy sitting in the chair behing my MINI is doing.

 

NXT is awesome! I just picked up a bottle a week ago and tried it. I love it. My garage looks like a Megguires comercial....I think I own all their products I love them so much :smile:. If I could buy their quick detailer by the 50 gallon drum, I would. It's great stuff.

 

I just used NXT on my daughter's car yesterday, here are my thoughts:

For the $$$, not bad. Is easier to use than Zaino but, I don't think the results are as good as Zaino.
For first time application, you still have to wash with Dawn, clay bar, wash again, dry car. All the same as with Zaino. I did put on one coat, easy on and fairly easy off. Still some dust residue and Stay way from the rubber or black grainy panels, bumpers or rub strip or you'll have a mess (this is not a problem with Zaino).
I wanted to put on a second coat but nowhere in instructions did it address how long you should wait before applying a second coat sooo, I called the tech help line shown on the bottle. When I saked the tech why this wasn't shown in the instructions, he said most customers don't want to apply more than one coat (Guess they haven't met many MINI owners ) and, that more than two coats is a waste of wax . At anu rate, he said I should wait 24 hours before applying a second coat. Unfortunately, my daughter needed the car ( 2 grandsons, baseball games, etc.) so, she had to take the car.
Now, today... we get to wash and dry the car again before applying the second coat of NXT. With Zaino, I could have put on several coats yesterday and it would have been done....
Bottom line, I'll turn on the Oldies, make some ice tea and stick with ZAINO.:smile:

 

I agree, also, the guy and his wife who drive the beautiful Mequiar's tractor trailer around to various car shows and such live in my hometown. They had their truck and product display at a recent car show here, even though the show was much smaller than their normal venue. I have never met two nicer people, perfect for the job of promoting and demonstating some of the best auto detailing products available today. The NXT is indeed awesome.

It's hard for some folks to accept that a widely available product from a big company can be as good as one from a smaller "speciality" company. That's fine, there's enought demand for auto detailing products to keep a bunch of companies in business. I've tried a lot of different products in my 60 years but I'm sticking with Meguiars now because of the uniform high quality of their many products.:smile:

R.E.

 

The reason they don't talk about "layering" is cause NXT doesn't need it, nor will your car benefit from it. Zaino likes to tell people that the more coats the better. Most experts will agree that adding another layer on top will remove some of what lies below, thus 12 coats doesn't mean 12 layers. I know coming from the Zaino world, it's hard to accept that NXT can do things just as well as Zaino with one layer but it's true. I posted on Autopia.org that the main difference you will find between Zaino and NXT is slickness. I can lay a terry towel on a Zaino'd bonnet and it will slide right off. NXT doesn't do that. That doesn't mean Zaino offers more protection or offers a deeper, wetter look. It just means the surface is very slick. NXT looks great, is much more affordable to use often, is readily available. I'd say for the fanatics that love Zaino and will spend the money, you are better off, buying NXT and a Porter Cable Dual Action Orbital Polisher--it'll cost as much money as a Zaino Starter kit, but it will last forever, it'll make adding and removing NXT or any polish/wax for that matter easier, and faster. In fact, we DA'd right over my Zaino with 1 coat of NXT and it looked awesome. No Claybar/Dawn needed to remove Zaino. And yes I had "12 coats" of Zaino before going to NXT.

 

So, you agree that Zaino results in a "slicker" finish than NXT. That means dust & dirt will not adhear as easily. Thats a good thing:smile: As far as layering, your "experts" are a bit off in that with a polymer, as both Zaino & NXT are, you will layer with multiple coats. Therefore, when you applied NXT over Zaino without dawn or clay bar, thats exactly what you did... put NXT on top of Zaino. Wax will not layer. I did say that NXT is OK for the cost and labor involved but, I liked the results of Zaino better. If that makes me a "fanatic" so be it

 

Yeah but I don't think a slicker finish makes my MINI LOOK any better. I saw no difference and definitely no reduction in the amount of dust that collects on my MINI when I used Zaino before going to NXT. The boot collects dust every minute I'm out there, and I know with NXT under it, a quick wipe with a microfiber pulls it right off, though I normally spray Quik Detailer just for safety. But I still would rather do one good coat of NXT, say every 3 weeks or once a month, rather than multiple coats of Zaino. And spend the rest of my time cleaning off my white wheels and dusting off the MINI!

I didn't say that it doesn't layer, I said that 12 coats of Zaino, doesn't make 12 layers of Zaino, or that additional layers always remove some below. But what do I know, I admit I'm no expert.

Oh as far as putting NXT over Zaino, you are disregarding the application method. I think if you just sponge NXT on over Zaino, and wipe it off, then yes, you are applying NXT over Zaino. But apply it with a PCDA, and the buffing process is actually doing more than just applying NXT. Not sure what it's doing exactly, but I would imagine the Zaino layer is getting beaten up by the process since in normal practice with the right foam pads and chemicals, a PCDA will remove small scratches or at the very least make them less visible. Just my 2cents from an NXT fanatic!

 

I started using it as soon as I got my MINI. Great product.

Jarrad

 

I'm betting that if you did another coat of NXT before 24hrs, it wouldn't hurt anything...