Random Orbital Newbie
Random Orbital Newbie
I've been detailing my own cars since I first started driving, mainly using the Meguiars products, and the following steps: wash, clay bar, cleaner, polish, wax. I just got a Flex random orbital and I'm wondering what would be a good "starter" kit? I'm looking at the Poor Boys kit below or Griot's Garage, any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
http://www.autogeek.net/popoprkit1.html
http://www.autogeek.net/griots-wax-polish-kit.html
http://www.autogeek.net/popoprkit1.html
http://www.autogeek.net/griots-wax-polish-kit.html
I've been using Griot's for a little over 4 years. You can't go wrong but take a look at the same product direct from Griot's for 5 bucks less. You'll also get their catalog regularly and have a place to get all your questions answered. The two detailing cloths shown from autogeek are Griot's interior wipedown cloths, not what you want to use on the exterior. Add three of the blue speedshine cloths. You will find the speed shine to be a favorite quick detailer so figure on eventually getting the gallon jug.
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...ortby=ourPicks
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...ortby=ourPicks
I own a company (now in hibernation for a year to two) that makes detail products, and I have to say that I find Griot's products a little mild. The Flex is a really powerful buffer since it is direct-drive (where "true" random orbitals like the Griot's buffer or the Porter Cable 7424XP aren't), so maybe it will overcome the somewhat softer cut of the Griot's polishes and single pad for polishing.
Keep the speed on the buffer down a bit - the Flex will use at least one notch lower than what Griot's recommends for their buffers. If you don't, you'll tend to break down the polish too fast and you won't get the full benefit.
I don't dislike their polishes at all, I just think systems that match pad to polish are more effective. There is a lot of safety factor in the Griot's system, which isn't a bad thing for a beginner.
Their carnauba wax can be a little tough to get off if you leave it too long. If you really want to get the best combination of depth and durability, go for a polymer wax topped with carnauba. You have to do it in that order since the polymer wax bonds to the paint and the carnauba would interfere if it is applied first. Let the polymer bond overnight if you can before you apply the carnauba.
Carnauba also doesn't last as long as polymer, so I tend to do alternate between doing both and just the carnauba as a topcoat the next time. I strip all the wax and claybar when I do both.
I really like the Griot's washing pads. Learn about two-bucket washing to keep your car looking great and minimize swirling (and thus the need for polishing as often). Invest in some good microfiber. Personally, I'm not a fan of Griot's for that as I think they are over-priced for the quality, other than their drying towel.
Hope that helps!
Keep the speed on the buffer down a bit - the Flex will use at least one notch lower than what Griot's recommends for their buffers. If you don't, you'll tend to break down the polish too fast and you won't get the full benefit.
I don't dislike their polishes at all, I just think systems that match pad to polish are more effective. There is a lot of safety factor in the Griot's system, which isn't a bad thing for a beginner.
Their carnauba wax can be a little tough to get off if you leave it too long. If you really want to get the best combination of depth and durability, go for a polymer wax topped with carnauba. You have to do it in that order since the polymer wax bonds to the paint and the carnauba would interfere if it is applied first. Let the polymer bond overnight if you can before you apply the carnauba.
Carnauba also doesn't last as long as polymer, so I tend to do alternate between doing both and just the carnauba as a topcoat the next time. I strip all the wax and claybar when I do both.
I really like the Griot's washing pads. Learn about two-bucket washing to keep your car looking great and minimize swirling (and thus the need for polishing as often). Invest in some good microfiber. Personally, I'm not a fan of Griot's for that as I think they are over-priced for the quality, other than their drying towel.
Hope that helps!
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