Did not see Epic on the list.
So Zaino is good, and did do well but that does not say it does better than some of the waxes listed here (say M21 and Epic).

Sorry, but I drink the kool-aid and have been very happy (use but don't drink the Hydro).
I have tried my share of "waxes" over more years than I would like to admit, and I agree with Richard.

 

i like clean cars. as far as a favorite wax... i'm still a novice @ 22. but i have seen zainoed cars and meg's cars but not anything from DP. i'm going to order some Prima products and see what happens. i'll compare to my friends Z who is always getting the last touches from Zaino. my car is going to need more work as it has swirls from the factory wash @ princeton MINI (i forgot to put up the sign! DON"T WASH MY CAR IN A MACHINE! so my fault.

 

I was just going to start a thread talking about how slick Epic is, but I'll just add my 2 cents here.

Before knowing anything about what was available, I used Meguiar's NXT wax. It was easy to use and lasted just fine (at least in Southern California).

Then I learned something and switched to Klasse All-in-One with Sealant Glaze on top. That's great stuff, but no fun to work with.

Two weeks ago I put Epic on, and it is much slicker than Klasse. At the car wash, the water--even though it's from a high-pressure, fine-spray nozzle--rolls right off. It used to take me 2 MF towels to get my car dry, and now it only takes 1.

(The only downside to the slickness came one morning when it was raining. Epic is so slick, and the Mini's drip rails so useless, that the water that had beaded on the roof poured down onto my pant leg when I sat in the car!)

 

P21S for me

 

Prima Epic/Hydro works for me. I used the ICE once, it was OK but didn't last as long as Epic IMO.

 

IMO, the Guru Reports was an excellent resource, especially relative to anything else out there. Although not perfect in the scientific sense of testing, their tests were executed better than any other I've seen.

Unfortunately, the Wax Test of the Guru Reports was done several years ago and before the birth of some of the high quality and popular enthusiast-style waxes that have been developed since. Epic hadn't been invented yet at the time of the Guru Reports. I would love it if they did another run of the tests, using waxes like Prima Epic. Alas, the group of guys who ran the Guru Reports went their separate ways years ago so it doesn't look very likely.

If anyone with scientific testing experience wants to do some controlled, unbiased wax tests, I can bet the demand for such results would be huge. Until then, we only have anecdotal reports from which to draw... which can be helpful too, just not flawless.

-Heather

 

Maybe at one of Octane Guy's clinics someone could volunteer their roof to be treated with 6 or 8 different waxes. It's not scientific, of course, but it would be more reliable than individual users' anecdotes. If Richard is there to supervise we can be sure each wax is applied correctly.

I'll kindly volunteer my roof for the experiment. All I ask in exchange is a free polishing by Richard first!

 

Pinnacle Souveran for me. I'm on my second jar. I also like Poorboys Nattys Blue for dark colors, and pinnacle xmt180 for metallics. Nattys blue is really deep and xmt180 really shows off the flakes, but Souveran just has a different glow to it that I can't get over. Looks great on black and red. I used xmt180 for the first time on my boss's truck in November and it's still beading nicely Natty's lasts a few months, which ain't too bad.

My new winter wax is collinite 845. I was shocked and how incredible the depth and clarity was. I applied it back in November and it's still going strong. If it wasn't so difficult to apply and remove, I'd use it all the time... but then again I would only have to apply it twice a year.

P21S is great too, but the durability is crap.

 

Zymol Carbon

I'm hooked.

 

My favorite "wax" is Blitz.

 

The funny thing about wax is by the time I get to that stage the car usually looks great from the polish and I love every wax I put on top. I love the slickness of Epic and the hydro maintenance keeps it looking great all the time. The last one I tried was Meguiars nxt 2.0 and I swear my pure silver has never looked so good. On my hb's black crew cab dually I like the look of megs #26 over epic. I know I'll love the next wax I try too. I like a wax to be easy to apply and remove , has some filling properties, gives gloss and depth and doesn't break the bank.
Wax is kind of like a new hat. You love it when you first put it on and its fresh and different, but after a while its the same old hat and you need a new look.

 

I agree with CARSBILLMINI, Griot's Best Show Wax

 

I go with Mothers. Used to do it by hand, switched to buffer, back to hand (got the best results that way, plus much more gratifying when its done).

 

Every six months: Two coats of Prima Epic synthetic wax.

When I'm bored: Meguiar's Gold Class wax on top of that to boost glossiness.

Here they are in action:

 

Isn't Amigo more of a very mild polish/filler than a protective layer of wax? Slap some Epic over that stuff and bathe in all it's glory!

 

Yeah, Amigo is not a wax - just a polish/cleaner/filler. I will admit though after my Amigo step I always wonder why I continue because the paint is so clean and glossy. Then I add my Epic and remember.

 

Oops, you're right. My sealant is actually Epic, for some reason I had Amigo on the mind while typing and it slipped in there.

 

Although remember is DOES have polymers in it--that's why it's harder to wash out from the pads than say Swirl or Finish. From what I understand, you could use it as a wax, but I don't know if any of us have checked the durability. Maybe it would be similar to Hydro? I dunno really.

 

very interesting stuff. can't wait for my 15% off coupon to get here. its the only reason i bought the calendar.