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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Rain water is distilled water; it is formed through a process of evaporation and condensation.

http://www.getalife.net.au/mag/water_html

I can believe it picks up crap in falling but I hever had water spots from rain. I have from the sprinkler. But still, the question is ...
You should live in Vegas. Tons of mineral-based dust in the air and because of the low humidity the suckers dry almost instantaneously after contact, leaving tremendous water spottage.

So what? Don't these people WASH their cars?
Down boy...it's not always that simple. Getting rid of these water spots can be awfully challenging, especially in a hot, dry climate. A little rain followed by a LOT OF HEAT can make a water spot damn near permanent in a couple of days. Unlike some people, I have a life and commitments...I don't have the time to go spend an evening after work trying to remove baked-on water spots.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
Chows is trolling again..........................hehe
he's just running out of vitamins and minerals again...
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Sometimes you see high end cars for sale saying "never driven in rain".
My MINI has never seen rain either after I took ownership, I just didn't want the grime and stuff getting onto the car.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Motoring
My MINI has never seen rain either after I took ownership, I just didn't want the grime and stuff getting onto the car.

yah, it's a pita to clean under the bonnet... not worth my time either.
i dont even look at the engine room on my commuters. so filthy.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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yah, it's a pita to clean under the bonnet... not worth my time either.
i dont even look at the engine room on my commuters. so filthy.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
I'm just curious about the rain thing cause I see no point in having something you cant use because your afraid of the rain

Sometimes I think of clearbra the same way as ppl who used to put plastic on their sofas so the sofa dont get dirty. When do you take the plastic off and actually enjoy the real sofa (or car). What is the point of having a fine car if your afraid to get it dirty. Most of them are MEANT to be driven, including in the winter.
Dude no wonder you have 14,000+ posts.

You spend your money then drive it however and in whatever you want. But actually questioning why someone would not drive in the rain or snow is just as ridiculous as you not understanding why. To list a car as never driven in the rain is music to car crazies ear's....if it just a tool to you that is fine, but it just might be more than that to others.

"Most of them are MEANT to be driven, including in the winter." Which one do you think will last longer, the one that is in the garage or in the salt 180 days a year?

No offence, but now I know why I do not visit NAM anymore.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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LOL................yep that's chows !
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pep'r
No offence, but now I know why I do not visit NAM anymore.

it's because of chows?

but he's only one member out of tens of thousands. who cares i say,
just have fun here.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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In Aridzona...

...that means it's driven all the time!

Collectors are a different breed.

Chows, what the heck are you looking at trailer queens for anyway?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pep'r
You spend your money then drive it however and in whatever you want. But actually questioning why someone would not drive in the rain or snow is just as ridiculous as you not understanding why.
As I said in the original post

I read this elsewhere and thought I'd ask here.

I was looking for opinions, but if you want to attack me for asking for opinions, I guess its a free country

Yes DUDE, coming from the snow belt I understand people get beaters to drive in the winter

Originally Posted by 89AKurt
Chows, what the heck are you looking at trailer queens for anyway?
I'm not. See my original post above ... looking for opinions. I ... my opinion, I can see it for TRUE collectibles ... cars that are not new and still worth $100K up.

I can't see it for current production vehicles. That's just my opinion.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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shhhh!!! chows is back!
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
...I was looking for opinions, but if you want to attack me for asking for opinions, I guess its a free country


I'm not. See my original post above ... looking for opinions. I ... my opinion, I can see it for TRUE collectibles ... cars that are not new and still worth $100K up.

I can't see it for current production vehicles. That's just my opinion.
Asking for opinions is like hitting an africanized bee colony, expect to get stung. And it's a sorta free country (IMO).

Is there a formula for new cars, like, if it costs over $X it shall not see rain? Or production number. I remember seeing a Pinto that was as perfect as a p.o.s. can be selling for a healthy amount, just because all the other Pintos blew up or something.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Hi Chowsie! In collector speak around here, a car never driven in the rain is expected to be spotless on the underside. There are places under the car that you can't ever clean like original after being sprayed with a good dose of road spray. I've only seen a few real "never driven in the rain" cars in my life and they were P wagons (and they were spotless, top to bottom). Some of the inspection stamps used at the factory are water based ink/paint and some part tags are paper. Both degrade pretty quickly when driven in the rain. So, if COMPLETE originality are of concern, driving in the rain is not a good thing.

If I ever get a P wagon again, it WILL be driven in the rain and the underside will be fuzzy. woohoo.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
There are pollutants in the air. When it rains these pollutants get deposited on everything including vehicles. A couple of years ago red clay dust from Texas got deposited on vehicles here in Chicago when it had rained. It turned any vehicles sitting outside a nice red.<snip>
Just FYI. That red clay dust is from Oklahoma, not Texas. You might find some of that red clay at the border of Texas and Oklahoma, but It is a primary feature of Oklahoma.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
it's because of chows?

but he's only one member out of tens of thousands. who cares i say,
just have fun here.
If Mr. Pep'r doesn't visit NAM because he gets pissed off about someone asking a question, then we are all better off for his lack of visits.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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What's in rain?
http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/GG/ASK/rain2.html
Lots of stuff besides water depending on where you live.

Yes, lots of road grime and junk that increases corrosion on your car.
Ever take a look at your brakes and rotors after drying off after rain?

I get waterspots all the time from rain, usually mixed with dirt.

Usually it rains here daily.

Also once the body gets dirty and needs cleaning then you need to carefully clean the surface and that puts it more at risk for damage due to repeated cleaning (scratches).
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle_John
Hi Chowsie! In collector speak around here, a car never driven in the rain is expected to be spotless on the underside. There are places under the car that you can't ever clean like original after being sprayed with a good dose of road spray. I've only seen a few real "never driven in the rain" cars in my life and they were P wagons (and they were spotless, top to bottom). Some of the inspection stamps used at the factory are water based ink/paint and some part tags are paper. Both degrade pretty quickly when driven in the rain. So, if COMPLETE originality are of concern, driving in the rain is not a good thing.
Yo UJ ... now that was excellent info and, of course, that was the kind of forum that was discussing it. So I guess there is a good reason if you really want to keep it for "collectibility".

I heard one response that Ferrari test drives ALL their cars at the factory in all weather except ice. I know PAG has schools in the US for driving the C4s on snow.

I guess there is a legitimate reason, especially for concours ... but like you said ... I don't think I have to worry about it at the moment ... although I aint been out in ice (not going to happen if I can help it), I figure all that other stuff you mentions is LONG gone

Thanks!
 
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by minihune
Ever take a look at your brakes and rotors after drying off after rain?
Oh yeah, after one day the rotors are growing rust until the first time you hit the brakes
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
it's because of chows?

but he's only one member out of tens of thousands. who cares i say,
just have fun here.
kenchan, it is not just chow there are few others out there also. At the same time I have talked with several great members just like you.

When I visit my other forums I am a member of they just do not seem to get get my blood boiling like NAM does. I have stopped making new posts and reading the threads other than 'Detailing 101' and our local Mini Club thread

Just like the post LynnEl made is what I am talking about, where is the fun in that? And remember last time I had fun with a post involving cleaning products and heath? I am not seeing the fun in these types of postings.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Geez. I've made a bunch of funny posts (just ask Tig) and you pick on that one!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pep'r
No offence, but now I know why I do not visit NAM anymore.
Originally Posted by Mr. Pep'r
Just like the post LynnEl made is what I am talking about, where is the fun in that?
I asked a legitimate question that I did not have the answer for. Otherwise, obviously, I would not have asked it. Several ppl like UJ and Minihume and others gave real answers. Your answer gave no real info whatsoever other than general stuff and sounded annoyed. You didn't help me at all. You didn't have to answer at all but chose to.

But thats fine, it's cool, I got the real answer.

And Ken, he's so high how Hydro now he's buying the stuff by the gallon so you can't always tell if he's been sniffing the stuff or not
 

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pep'r
kenchan, it is not just chow there are few others out there also. At the same time I have talked with several great members just like you.

When I visit my other forums I am a member of they just do not seem to get get my blood boiling like NAM does. I have stopped making new posts and reading the threads other than 'Detailing 101' and our local Mini Club thread

Just like the post LynnEl made is what I am talking about, where is the fun in that? And remember last time I had fun with a post involving cleaning products and heath? I am not seeing the fun in these types of postings.
yah, i getcha. well, you're welcome to make your own thread here and
we can talk about your car and detailing, your garage and wat not.



Originally Posted by chows4us
And Ken, he's so high how Hydro now he's buying the stuff by the gallon so you can't always tell if he's been sniffing the stuff or not
chows, you're suppose to take your vitamins with water and swallow it,
not stick it up your nose and pretend you're an elephant eating peanuts. lol
 
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