Valentine 1
Originally Posted by Rossii
V-1's can only be bought through their website. You could pick up used ones on ebay. I have one and its totally worth it.
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That's why I said "MD". If mail order I can use a 'drop'. 
It'll stay stowed most of the time, but my typical road trips are only in VA the first 5 miles. Then whip er out. I was hoping for a brick and morter selled 'cause I decided I should get one at 11 last night. And I'm leading a run on Sat a.m.
It'll stay stowed most of the time, but my typical road trips are only in VA the first 5 miles. Then whip er out. I was hoping for a brick and morter selled 'cause I decided I should get one at 11 last night. And I'm leading a run on Sat a.m.
Mark - unfortunate run-in with the fuzz? 
No, the V1 is a "direct only" purchase. I have one, and since I can't make it on the run tomorrow, I'd be happy to lend it to you, if we can figure out how you can pick it up today.
No, the V1 is a "direct only" purchase. I have one, and since I can't make it on the run tomorrow, I'd be happy to lend it to you, if we can figure out how you can pick it up today.
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Nope, no run ins. 
But I admit the number of radar traps I saw on the By the Bay dry runs got me thinking. I've been point free for over 20 years and would like to stay that way.
Two were set up in 30 mph zones. And they were roads you'd think were 40-45. Those are the ones I worry about. Even on a run I like to play a little in the twisties but keep it down and reasonable in the straight bits.
But those 30 mph zones were ridiculous.
On highways I'm usually within 5-7 mph anyway. On the beltway I'm mostly one lane from the right and doing whatever that is. And the two left are usually much faster and I assume since I'm in the slower 30% or so that I'll be ok anyway.
I would actually like to try it if I may. You around this eve?
But I admit the number of radar traps I saw on the By the Bay dry runs got me thinking. I've been point free for over 20 years and would like to stay that way.Two were set up in 30 mph zones. And they were roads you'd think were 40-45. Those are the ones I worry about. Even on a run I like to play a little in the twisties but keep it down and reasonable in the straight bits.
But those 30 mph zones were ridiculous.
On highways I'm usually within 5-7 mph anyway. On the beltway I'm mostly one lane from the right and doing whatever that is. And the two left are usually much faster and I assume since I'm in the slower 30% or so that I'll be ok anyway.
I would actually like to try it if I may. You around this eve?
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Actually, I have a class to attend in Alexandria until 9:45pm... but I did think to put my V1 in my car this morning, so I have it with me. I'm sure we could find a way to meet up after my class is over, if that's not too late... unless by some chance you can make it to Merrifield (where I work) by 5pm!
Come to think of it, if you'll still be up, I don't mind dropping it off at your place after the class.
Come to think of it, if you'll still be up, I don't mind dropping it off at your place after the class.
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Make sure you are fully aware of what you are getting into. The first time I tried the Valentine 1 was on the 11 day road trip bringing my MINI back home to Los Angeles. After using it for 30 days I returned it.
Fast forward 2 years later, and I get my 2nd radar ticket near my work within 1 mile of each other (3 years apart). I decide to not get caught by radar again, and bought a used V1 here on NAM.
I would never sell it or trade it, as the number of times it's warned me has been numerous!
My warning above was simple.
There are different sounds for different warnings. Understand what those sounds mean, or the very least, keep an eye on the Band type LED lights.
Understand the Signal strength meter and Bogey counter.
Finally understand that car dealerships, hospitals, banks, and shopping malls, and anything with an automatic gate, door, or cargo door will trigger the V1. The laser warning will also get triggered by other cars. Usually a late model SUV behind you.
Also cars alongside you with cheap radar detectors leak signals that the V1 might pick up leading to false alarms.
What I'm saying is that the first time you use the V1, you might be surprised to see it always beeping and making noise, unless you realize and accept that what it's doing is creating a visual space around you of what you cannot see. It's lighting up the invisible microwave signals that could be a radar gun, and your edge is the ability to distinguish whats real and what's fake.
The bogey counter counts unique signals. Most of the above false sources come in pairs--an automatic door has a sensor for coming and going, thus 2 sources. So a 3rd bogey among a shopping area could mean trouble, or it might not.
The real benefit of the V1 is lighting up your daily route, so you get used to what no real radar looks like. Then one day, a cop is sitting hidden on the side of the road, your V1 picks up a signal that normally doesn't occur, you know something is up.
Using a radar detector requires some learning time, and you may be disappointed if you think it'll just beep when a cop is near by.
Finally, realize that passing a cop on the side of the road without the radar going off isn't necessarily a bad thing that you didn't get warned. Unless you are obviously going too fast, it means that he probably doesn't have his radar on you and that he hasn't measured your speed. Sometimes no warning is as good as a true warning.
Richard
Fast forward 2 years later, and I get my 2nd radar ticket near my work within 1 mile of each other (3 years apart). I decide to not get caught by radar again, and bought a used V1 here on NAM.
I would never sell it or trade it, as the number of times it's warned me has been numerous!
My warning above was simple.
There are different sounds for different warnings. Understand what those sounds mean, or the very least, keep an eye on the Band type LED lights.
Understand the Signal strength meter and Bogey counter.
Finally understand that car dealerships, hospitals, banks, and shopping malls, and anything with an automatic gate, door, or cargo door will trigger the V1. The laser warning will also get triggered by other cars. Usually a late model SUV behind you.
Also cars alongside you with cheap radar detectors leak signals that the V1 might pick up leading to false alarms.
What I'm saying is that the first time you use the V1, you might be surprised to see it always beeping and making noise, unless you realize and accept that what it's doing is creating a visual space around you of what you cannot see. It's lighting up the invisible microwave signals that could be a radar gun, and your edge is the ability to distinguish whats real and what's fake.
The bogey counter counts unique signals. Most of the above false sources come in pairs--an automatic door has a sensor for coming and going, thus 2 sources. So a 3rd bogey among a shopping area could mean trouble, or it might not.
The real benefit of the V1 is lighting up your daily route, so you get used to what no real radar looks like. Then one day, a cop is sitting hidden on the side of the road, your V1 picks up a signal that normally doesn't occur, you know something is up.
Using a radar detector requires some learning time, and you may be disappointed if you think it'll just beep when a cop is near by.
Finally, realize that passing a cop on the side of the road without the radar going off isn't necessarily a bad thing that you didn't get warned. Unless you are obviously going too fast, it means that he probably doesn't have his radar on you and that he hasn't measured your speed. Sometimes no warning is as good as a true warning.
Richard
Originally Posted by mmatarella
Nope, no run ins. But I admit the number of radar traps I saw on the By the Bay dry runs got me thinking. I've been point free for over 20 years and would like to stay that way.
Two were set up in 30 mph zones. And they were roads you'd think were 40-45. Those are the ones I worry about. Even on a run I like to play a little in the twisties but keep it down and reasonable in the straight bits.
But those 30 mph zones were ridiculous.
On highways I'm usually within 5-7 mph anyway. On the beltway I'm mostly one lane from the right and doing whatever that is. And the two left are usually much faster and I assume since I'm in the slower 30% or so that I'll be ok anyway.
I would actually like to try it if I may. You around this eve?
But I admit the number of radar traps I saw on the By the Bay dry runs got me thinking. I've been point free for over 20 years and would like to stay that way.Two were set up in 30 mph zones. And they were roads you'd think were 40-45. Those are the ones I worry about. Even on a run I like to play a little in the twisties but keep it down and reasonable in the straight bits.
But those 30 mph zones were ridiculous.
On highways I'm usually within 5-7 mph anyway. On the beltway I'm mostly one lane from the right and doing whatever that is. And the two left are usually much faster and I assume since I'm in the slower 30% or so that I'll be ok anyway.
I would actually like to try it if I may. You around this eve?
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Edge, hate for you to go out of your way when doing me the favor... I could come up and meet you in Alexandria too if ya want, to save time?
Thanks OctaneGuy, your points all make sense and sound good. One thing in my favor for this 'test drive' is that the run is mostly out in the boonies. There isn't much in the way of business out there. But point well taken on the learning curve, thanks!
Thanks OctaneGuy, your points all make sense and sound good. One thing in my favor for this 'test drive' is that the run is mostly out in the boonies. There isn't much in the way of business out there. But point well taken on the learning curve, thanks!
Mark,
I'll call you as soon as the class is over, and we can try to find a convenient meeting place. The class is on Quaker Lane, so I'll be right in the Old Town vicinity.
OctaneGuy's advice is good... but in the case of my V1, a long time ago, I accessed the service mode and disabled the X-band detection. X-band is the oldest and most commonly used frequency for automatic door openers, etc... and is rarely used by police in MD any more (if at all).
I'll call you as soon as the class is over, and we can try to find a convenient meeting place. The class is on Quaker Lane, so I'll be right in the Old Town vicinity.
OctaneGuy's advice is good... but in the case of my V1, a long time ago, I accessed the service mode and disabled the X-band detection. X-band is the oldest and most commonly used frequency for automatic door openers, etc... and is rarely used by police in MD any more (if at all).
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