Cooper (non S) Modifications specific to the MINI Cooper (R50).

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Can I get a cam recomendation?

I have an '02 MC with the cvt trans, modified muffler, ported heads, K&N cone-type air filter. It's faster than when stock, but still not fast(to me). I think I cannot fully realise the potential of the ported head with the stock cam, which feels flat(always has). Last time I posted a cam question it was removed(!). I appreciate someone taking the time to advise. -Jeffy.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffy
I have an '02 MC with the cvt trans, modified muffler, ported heads, K&N cone-type air filter. It's faster than when stock, but still not fast(to me). I think I cannot fully realise the potential of the ported head with the stock cam, which feels flat(always has). Last time I posted a cam question it was removed(!). I appreciate someone taking the time to advise. -Jeffy.
I have a Schrick.....really don't hear much about others
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SpiderX
I have a Schrick.....really don't hear much about others
I dont think I have EVER heard of any otheres besides the schrick haha
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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There's the Ultrik sold by Mini Mania.....on the other hand, I think it's exactly the same as the Schrick.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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I'll bet the MiniMania one is cheaper, though...

I used to have a BMW 2002 and the Schricks were so expensive that I had Crane Cams copy a Schrick grind for a third the price! -Jeffy.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Yup, if I remember correctly it's something close to $399 vs $599.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kurvhugr
Yup, if I remember correctly it's something close to $399 vs $599.
From:
http://helix13.com/mini/products/intake-engine

HMS 2017 Schrick Cam MCS $469.00
HMS 2018 Schrick Cam MC $449.00

"Schrick represents the benchmark for European camshaft machining technology. The Schrick camshaft (252/260) for the Cooper and Cooper S is CNC machined from cold billet to improve top end power, without sacrificing idle smoothness."
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At Mini Mania:
For the MCS Ultrick cam is $399.95.

Info on the Ultrick:
Ground to Mini Mania's exacting specifications by a selected major OEM camshaft supplier, this high performance camshaft increases horsepower and torque throughout the RPM range. Similar performance to the Schrick camshaft at a lower cost. The camshaft can be used with the stock or ported cylinder head and stock valve springs. A great way to improve performance without disassembling the motor – a difference you can feel!

Intake: Duration 264, Lift 9.5mm, overlap 0.5, peak timing 114, open at 18, close at 66.

Exhaust: Duration 272, Lift 9.0mm, overlap 0.65, peak timing 114, open at 70, close at 22

For the MCS shrick cam $579
For those interested in numbers...

Intake: Duration 264º, Lift 9.5mm, overlap 0.5, peak timing 114º, open at 18º, close at 66.

Exhaust: Duration 272º, Lift 9.0mm, overlap 0.65, peak timing 114º, open at 70º, close at 22º.


The MC shrick cam is $579.

NOTE: As with other performance camshafts, Spark plug tubes may require minor clearancing.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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I have the Schrick... it's great with some head work, but doesn't produce much without it...
 
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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scobib do you autox sm??
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffy
I have an '02 MC with the cvt trans, modified muffler, ported heads, K&N cone-type air filter. It's faster than when stock, but still not fast(to me). I think I cannot fully realise the potential of the ported head with the stock cam, which feels flat(always has). Last time I posted a cam question it was removed(!). I appreciate someone taking the time to advise. -Jeffy.
We do custom grinds to fit the application.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 05:39 AM
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I know of 3 other companies making cams for the Mini/MCS. Piper cams was the mildest one I saw. The Kent cam was between the Piper and the Schrick in duration, with lift matching the Schrick MCS cam. The 3rd company is www.catcams.be I just briefly looked at their cams, as I had already ordered the Schrick for my MCS.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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scobib do you autox sm??
I autocross with my local BMWCCA chapter... I'm not a big fan of the SCCA events, personally, so I avoid them. Our local BMWCCA chapter has longer courses, which are more fun, higher speed, and we get LOTS more runs (8+ for timing and as many fun runs as you want). Besides, the BMWCCA people are a lot more friendly in my experience... at least locally, anyhoo.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by scobib
I autocross with my local BMWCCA chapter... I'm not a big fan of the SCCA events, personally, so I avoid them. Our local BMWCCA chapter has longer courses, which are more fun, higher speed, and we get LOTS more runs (8+ for timing and as many fun runs as you want). Besides, the BMWCCA people are a lot more friendly in my experience... at least locally, anyhoo.
I didn't know we had a BMWCCA??? Where do yall run??
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by justintime
I didn't know we had a BMWCCA??? Where do yall run??
Lone Star Chapter BMWCCA - http://www.lscbmwcca.org

http://www.lscbmwcca.org/autocross.html

This season, we've run at Mineral Wells, Texas Motor Speedway's Bus Lot, Pennington Field, Grayson Co. Airport... Last season, we ran all events at Mineral Wells...
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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oh so mainly around dallas? Thats kinda a long drive expecially if yall happen to run on sundays haha..
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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We run on Saturdays, mostly... Sometimes on Sunday (like in October, since our NIGHT AUTOCROSS is Saturday). The Night Autocross is a freakin' blast - we start off Saturday evening, make fun runs, then all eat... when the sun goes down, it's fog and driving lights time. Red/orange on one side of the cones, green on the other - it's kinda like navigating a boat at night.

For the safety mavens out there, this is a HUGE lot with nothing to hit - and we leave a LOT of runout room.

Where are you located? If it's Houston, there's a BMWCCA chapter there, too. There's actually one in Austin/Hill Country as well, but they don't have an AX program.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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I'm located in Boerne, houston is a doable drive for an autox.. that does sound fun, I think autox with a bunch of minis and bmw would be a blast. Dave showed me the site for the BMWCCA in sanantonio but like you said it doesn't have an autox..
 
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