Anybody here have it? If so, is it a good product and what effect did it have on performance?

 

No effect. The stock ones are just as good on our cars. If you have corrosion on your stock one, you would still be better off replacing it with a stock one. The stock ones can ignite much more fuel than our cars will squirt out. You will get much better gains (maybe 2 hp) and some sound from a cotton or foam panel filter. Same goes for wires. The only reason to get aftermarket ones on our cars is for the color.

 

^^^+1
Put the $75 toward either new plugs or a down payment toward a DDM or the like.

 

The MSD coil is better then the OEM. If you compare the raise time which is essential for higher RPM stabilized voltage to the plugs then you can see the OEM falls behind an MSD. Often claimed by many that they can not feel the difference if you get a chance to place an OEM and an MSD on an oscilloscope you can graphically see the difference. Or borrow someones MSD and simply replace your OEM start your engine and observe. Then replace with the OEM and repeat. Oh and the Color is cool by the way.

 

Just some reading material regarding MSD's.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...light=MSD+coil

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...light=MSD+coil

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...light=MSD+coil
A multiple spark discharge system will show an improvement in a high compression/heavy nitrous/high boost car but a stock or even modded MINI will see a neglible improvement. There are 250+ WHP R53's running the stock coil and wires with no issues. Does anyone have any test results showing a measurable improvement over OE with an MSD?

 

Nope no difference with mine.....but I don't get the corrosion as bad and it does look cool !

 

Yep, however, a can of red spray paint would have been cheaper.
I have ties to MSD and had to put 'em on.

ps, Pepboys was the cheapest!

 

yea......but you don't get the sticker!

 

absolute waste of money


we have used the stock coil pack to over 400whp

anyone else telling you different hasn't done it or is trying to sell you something

 

I suppose you would be the one that hasn't done it.


As I said for those that question " place an OEM and an MSD on an oscilloscope you can graphically see the difference".

And sure its a waste of a small amount of money to get a slight improvement . Spend lots of money to get small improvements

The voltage rating has very little to do with the performance of a coil by the way!

 

Oh, I have done that and then some

the problem here is people offerring advice without any proof what so ever

how many dyno sheets or et's do you have on a Mini showing the differences with the stock ECU?

I can tell you emphatically it doesn't work... in some cars its worse than stock and that's a fact. The stock ecu is setup for certain tolerances and once you exceed those good luck getting the car to work properly.

I'll say it again... STAY AWAY from aftermarket plug wires and coil packs and modified throttle bodies.... if someone trys to sell this garbage to you.... RUN

 

PWN3D

 

No I am going to call you on this one JAN you did not run the coils on an oscilloscope!!
Sorry pal if you did you would not be making these comments. You are funny at times. I hate to tell you the bad news but somethings do not show on a DYNO.

 

This calls for an audience.

 

.... how many Mini's have you tuned?

 

Sorry this has what to do with the topic??

Its simple you think I am wrong go to a good old service shop that has a scope and check it out. I am not trying to sell anything but giving a positive comments on a worth while product. the MSD coil.

 

Actually, if you search long enough, there's plenty of threads from people who have misfire, fitment, and corrosion issues with both the MSD and SD coil. Yet, so very few with the OE pack....

 

it has everything to do with it

putting a coil pack on the car that can end up causing problems is just bad advice. I'm tired of having to tell people to put the stocker back on to make the car run right. If you tuned them you would see it too. The fastest/most powerful Mini's in the world are running stock coil packs.... live with it

 

ding ding ding.... search button wins again

 

My advise is call MSD.
http://www.msdignition.com/

Also contact Jacobs Electronic. David Jacobs has a PHD in Automotive electrical engineering and is more then happy to explain how some performance coils work. Even the MSD which is his competitor.

 

why would I change a part that works perfectly good?

I'm sure I will eat another few bags of corn before this one gets answered....

in the meantime... going to grab so pho so if you can come up with a reason why I would change it when it has outperformed the MSD.... let me know

 

I'm trying to find a dedicated thread but at the same time, don't feel like going through 350+ pages to find 1 thread or even post about it.

 

I put my stock plug wires back on and I gained 10 hp. Jk. (but I did put the stockers back on! )

Some one in the "know" hinted at it!

pass that popcorn!

 

use the advanced search function and search in just the r53 electrical section and you SHOULD get some good hits without the crazyness.

hope that helps.

 

Tried and I couldn't find anything definite, just the same stuff Jan and I have been saying here. Or I could just handicapped.