MSD Ignition Coil
at least they are smart enough to NOT throw on a MSD coil pack
time for bed... have to tune Mini's tomorrow
Will they have an MSD on them?

Si hombre, si

I was told to put the MSD on by a very well, long respected member and it just didn't get it done. The pinging issue i had was worse and I started to misfire. Put the stocker back on and all is good at 200whp ((no Jan tune) but wouldn't mind a Jan tune).
The last post was for my entertainment and sometimes offends people. I guess I'm a nut at heart
Last edited by HighLife4136; Jul 11, 2008 at 09:32 PM.
For the record.
MSD makes many a fine product. Their products lots of American engines are some of the best of breed. However, there is something about their MINI product that just doesn't cut it. Maybe because it's really for the Neon engine and the OEM mounts do not work correctly and there is some sort of stray interference that is causing the tips to corrode excessively.
MSD makes many a fine product. Their products lots of American engines are some of the best of breed. However, there is something about their MINI product that just doesn't cut it. Maybe because it's really for the Neon engine and the OEM mounts do not work correctly and there is some sort of stray interference that is causing the tips to corrode excessively.
For the record.
MSD makes many a fine product. Their products lots of American engines are some of the best of breed. However, there is something about their MINI product that just doesn't cut it. Maybe because it's really for the Neon engine and the OEM mounts do not work correctly and there is some sort of stray interference that is causing the tips to corrode excessively.
MSD makes many a fine product. Their products lots of American engines are some of the best of breed. However, there is something about their MINI product that just doesn't cut it. Maybe because it's really for the Neon engine and the OEM mounts do not work correctly and there is some sort of stray interference that is causing the tips to corrode excessively.

And, yes MSD is top notch, but the Neon part, like the Nissan Sentra Magnaflow catalytic converters can be somewhat subject.
The MSD unit may perform better on a scope but so far we've seen lots of examples where the tips corrode. How can we all be installing them incorrectly to have the same issue? I ran mine with Kingsborne wires with dielectric grease on the tips and saw corrosion to the point of misfire codes. Swapped the OEM wires and still had the same codes. Swapped out the MSD for a stock unit and codes went away. I did clean the tips on the MSD unit with emory cloth and still would get corrosion after about 1K miles or so. Oh yeah, it doesn't rain much here either and I tend to drive the Jeep when it does.
So while it may be a technically superior unit, in practice on a MINI they have proven to be problematic. Keep the MSD stuff for your big block, just not on my MINI.
So while it may be a technically superior unit, in practice on a MINI they have proven to be problematic. Keep the MSD stuff for your big block, just not on my MINI.
And your Big Block slam
Sorry who was talking about BB?
The corrosion is a cause of a problem you and others should check into and its not the coil. Its a common problem easy to cure. But you can not go to a tuner for that kind of problem.
Boy your moderation isn't biased is it?
And your Big Block slam
Sorry who was talking about BB?
The corrosion is a cause of a problem you and others should check into and its not the coil. Its a common problem easy to cure. But you can not go to a tuner for that kind of problem. 
And your Big Block slam
Sorry who was talking about BB?
The corrosion is a cause of a problem you and others should check into and its not the coil. Its a common problem easy to cure. But you can not go to a tuner for that kind of problem. 
Boy your moderation isn't biased is it?
And your Big Block slam
Sorry who was talking about BB?
The corrosion is a cause of a problem you and others should check into and its not the coil. Its a common problem easy to cure. But you can not go to a tuner for that kind of problem. 
And your Big Block slam
Sorry who was talking about BB?
The corrosion is a cause of a problem you and others should check into and its not the coil. Its a common problem easy to cure. But you can not go to a tuner for that kind of problem. 
You are right about the going after you. But the thing about the BB was a bit out of line from you. My experience goes well into many single and multi cylinder engines.
As for the possible solution this does not have to do with this thread on the MSD coil. But you asked. A couple things to consider having dealt with secondary ignition corrosion would be to check all the grounding area's and or ad some additional grounds. A solar charger that maintains a positive state of current will also help when the Mini is parked, stored or in a area of high moisture or salt. This will reduce or stop electrolysis/corrosion of secondary component's.
As far as the comments on the performance of the OEM coil working for x= hp that is correct. Except it is not the voltage but the resistance and raise time that are the benefit at high RPM levels which an OEM coil starts to fall short. If a side by side of an OEM vs MSD with both a dyno and oscilloscope sheet would clearly show. I would think that some looking for every step to get even the smallest increase in performance would investigate this? And for the smart guys it is not a neon coil. Its called (type) a 4 tower, quad pack coil or 4 terminal coil head.
As for the possible solution this does not have to do with this thread on the MSD coil. But you asked. A couple things to consider having dealt with secondary ignition corrosion would be to check all the grounding area's and or ad some additional grounds. A solar charger that maintains a positive state of current will also help when the Mini is parked, stored or in a area of high moisture or salt. This will reduce or stop electrolysis/corrosion of secondary component's.
As far as the comments on the performance of the OEM coil working for x= hp that is correct. Except it is not the voltage but the resistance and raise time that are the benefit at high RPM levels which an OEM coil starts to fall short. If a side by side of an OEM vs MSD with both a dyno and oscilloscope sheet would clearly show. I would think that some looking for every step to get even the smallest increase in performance would investigate this? And for the smart guys it is not a neon coil. Its called (type) a 4 tower, quad pack coil or 4 terminal coil head.
yes I am partial to something that works very well on my MINI since 2002


Last edited by Nitrominis; Jul 11, 2008 at 11:36 PM. Reason: added picture
Nitrosmini's too busy trying to justify spendng the money on his MSD
I have my 502cu. in BB Chevy and it has a full MSD system on it. Guess what it works like a champ on it. On the Mini however it doesn't work
this reminds me of the Phd's that said a car would never go 300mph in a 1/4mile. By the time they spent all of their time proving how it wasn't possible the rednecks were out doing it.
sounds familiar here too
.... the sage advice here is: careful what Phd you listen too, even ones who design coils
you would be much better serving yourself getting out to the track or on a dyno to prove your point, otherwise you are a lone camper in the trailer park


