Reverse CAI?
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Reverse CAI?
This is my first post and I am already going in reverse, so hello to everyone and thanks for all the help I have gotten before posting!
I purchased a 2005 Cooper recently (love it!), and I am in the process of making my Cooper quiet as possible (due to a hearing disability, opposite of deafness), I love the look and handling of the Cooper but I need to keep the sonics on the mitigated side. I noticed today after reading threads here for comparison, that the previous owner installed a CAI from aFe, I have tried in vain to search the appropriate keywords to find the OEM air intake parts and "air box", but to no avail. What are the correct keywords so I can find thread to go from CAI to oem?
Can anyone point me to where I would find pricing and availablity of OEM air intake parts? Or possibly know where I can find them used on ebay or here?
I appreciate any help you can give, I will also be making a before and after sound measurement and sound clip posting of sound barrier and vibration reduction installs as I progress so others can determine the effectiveness of such noise solutions. I have already ditched the runflat tires for a very quite set of Falken 912 that have reduced road noise greatly, now i need to keep the intake growl down (no matter how pretty it sounds) before I can get started comparing before and after cascade audio noise barriers.
thanks in advance!
I purchased a 2005 Cooper recently (love it!), and I am in the process of making my Cooper quiet as possible (due to a hearing disability, opposite of deafness), I love the look and handling of the Cooper but I need to keep the sonics on the mitigated side. I noticed today after reading threads here for comparison, that the previous owner installed a CAI from aFe, I have tried in vain to search the appropriate keywords to find the OEM air intake parts and "air box", but to no avail. What are the correct keywords so I can find thread to go from CAI to oem?
Can anyone point me to where I would find pricing and availablity of OEM air intake parts? Or possibly know where I can find them used on ebay or here?
I appreciate any help you can give, I will also be making a before and after sound measurement and sound clip posting of sound barrier and vibration reduction installs as I progress so others can determine the effectiveness of such noise solutions. I have already ditched the runflat tires for a very quite set of Falken 912 that have reduced road noise greatly, now i need to keep the intake growl down (no matter how pretty it sounds) before I can get started comparing before and after cascade audio noise barriers.
thanks in advance!
Last edited by sgnirts; 03-22-2008 at 07:24 PM.
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I called the Mini dealer today and found that I indeed need at least an airbox, which they say includes the air filter part # 13727529258 , at a cost of $108.81 and in stock! Now i need to use the exploded view to see if there were any other parts removed in order to install the aFe intake.
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Post some pictures. A great number of people on the site can identify any missing parts you'll need to replace.
Is it an MCS or justacooper? Go here:
http://www.realoem.com/
Follow the links for your year/make/model, and you'll find everything you need. (I think it's under "Fuel Preparation system").
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Is it an MCS or justacooper? Go here:
http://www.realoem.com/
Follow the links for your year/make/model, and you'll find everything you need. (I think it's under "Fuel Preparation system").
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Well the swap is completed, although i still need a bracket that my Mini dealer somehow decided they did not need to order (thanks!), but it is solid enough, the bracket looks like redundant support.
Here are the sound files of before and after, afe and oem. The sound files are not normalized, so you can hear the volume differences and the recording was done with a Apple laptop recorder, using Logic audio and an Apogee interface, the mics are AKG 535 and Oktava mk012..No Eq...here are the files!
#1 is the afe
#2 is the stock oem
http://www.barberelectronics.com/afe.mp3
http://www.barberelectronics.com/oem.mp3
Here are the sound files of before and after, afe and oem. The sound files are not normalized, so you can hear the volume differences and the recording was done with a Apple laptop recorder, using Logic audio and an Apogee interface, the mics are AKG 535 and Oktava mk012..No Eq...here are the files!
#1 is the afe
#2 is the stock oem
http://www.barberelectronics.com/afe.mp3
http://www.barberelectronics.com/oem.mp3
Last edited by sgnirts; 03-27-2008 at 09:12 PM.
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The overall difference in volume is about 2-3db, with the largest gains at 200hz, above 1k there is no measurable change, below 125hz there is nothing the analyzer can see. From a subjective listening point of view, you can hear it and feel it, making the playback of the sound files louder can help hear the difference. I can't really notice any drop in hp either.
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Well the swap is completed, although i still need a bracket that my Mini dealer somehow decided they did not need to order (thanks!), but it is solid enough, the bracket looks like redundant support.
Here are the sound files of before and after, afe and oem. The sound files are not normalized, so you can hear the volume differences and the recording was done with a Apple laptop recorder, using Logic audio and an Apogee interface, the mics are AKG 535 and Oktava mk012..No Eq...here are the files!
#1 is the afe
#2 is the stock oem
http://www.barberelectronics.com/afe.mp3
http://www.barberelectronics.com/oem.mp3
Here are the sound files of before and after, afe and oem. The sound files are not normalized, so you can hear the volume differences and the recording was done with a Apple laptop recorder, using Logic audio and an Apogee interface, the mics are AKG 535 and Oktava mk012..No Eq...here are the files!
#1 is the afe
#2 is the stock oem
http://www.barberelectronics.com/afe.mp3
http://www.barberelectronics.com/oem.mp3
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"I can't really notice any drop in hp either."
Yeah, according to Der Abt and his extensive dyno testing, the change in horsepower is almost insignificant. Some minor improvements in throttle response and of course the change in sound -but that's what you're trying to get rid of. What frequency range is the most bothersome for you? The higher range may be a little harder to block I'd think.
Yeah, according to Der Abt and his extensive dyno testing, the change in horsepower is almost insignificant. Some minor improvements in throttle response and of course the change in sound -but that's what you're trying to get rid of. What frequency range is the most bothersome for you? The higher range may be a little harder to block I'd think.
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