I am looking for a compact SUV and like the look of 2015 countryman. I am not good at bargaining. So I just compared the prices from some programs(edmunds, autopriceshare, truecar, walmart). AutoPriceShare dealers give me two offers. one is 2015 Countryman Cooper S ALL4 $27413.0, the other is Cooper Countryman 2015 $22035.
Since my city always rains, I think the AWD is necessary. However, the dealer and my friends told me that AWD is only useful when snow. Is that right?
In addition, I noticed that price of 2015 countryman is firm. The shared prices in autopriceshare.com are around invoice price. There are no big discounts. Are these two prices fair?

I think MINI is offering $1000 off the countryman this month. You can also save more if you go to a dealer and buy a car off the lot they want to get rid of. The prices you are looking at are base prices. That doesn't include anything good like heated seats or stereo or anything for that matter. MINIs are different in that you add all the cool features you want one by one individually and pay for them that way. The price starts adding up but if you get a base MINI you won't get any of the cool MINI options that you can get with the car.

go here and look at all the options before you buy

www.miniusa.com

and no, you don't need ALL4 if its just in the rain, you just need good tires.

No snow, you will be fine with the FWD.

And yes those are base prices you are being quoted. Mini is doing the $1000 off right now and I just bought one off the lot for a total of $3500 off MSRP, but mine had quite a few options. Mini also has 1.9% financing right now.

The pricing will really depend on what's equipped. There are so many options on MINIs, it would really depend. Are there any options that are a must? Think hard because some features that are standard on other cars may not be standard on the CM.

AWD is probably most useful in the snow, but it also makes a difference in cornering as well, plus I think you would enjoy the quicker engine that the Cooper S and the Cooper S ALL4 have over the standard Cooper, especially in the Countryman.

As flav mentioned though, there are deals to be had. Hopefully you have a good dealer nearby with a good MA that can work with you on pricing. If the salesperson or dealer isn't working for you, find another one. A good dealer makes all the difference.

there is a promo at the end of last month, just got All4 last week, thank

I cashed-in on the $1K incentive as well. I ended-up putting the thousand+ for All4 into other options and am pretty pleased I did.

FWD isn't so bad. Ask anyone that drives a GTI.

My FWD civic is amazing in snow.... with snow tires.

I'd rather have the extra horsepower for the money over All4.

Careful guys - he is comparing the All4 S and a base Countryman. I can tell just from the prices.

You will see a HUGE difference in performance between the S and the Base model.

What you should look for is a low mileage 2 year old 'S' [under 20,000 miles] that is well optioned.

Unless you are Mr. Boring and never drive for fun - put 4 people in a base model and you'll need a calendar to time the 0-60 time -and forget any kind of performance in the 50-70 passing test. The 'S' model is the base model in my mind.

The car needs options however - Nav brings decent speakers. At least Prem 2 - if it rains you will want the auto climate and then heated seats prob - so you're looking at an 'S' of about $32k - All 4S adds only about $1500 at that point.

'Used' takes you to $25k for that ride. . .

A used nicely-equipped, late model, low miles Countryman is extremely hard to find. Trust me, I looked for 2 months prior to ordering a new one.

Many dealers sell-off vehicles used as courtesy cars, but they're pretty stripped-down. Most just have the cold weather package and little else.

Late model (2012, 2013) are just now coming back after their leases have terminated, so there might be some hope in finding one of them.

I went the completely custom build route and ended-up ordering exactly what I wanted. While not inexpensive (mine ran ~$38K!) I couldn't be happier with my decision.

Definitely get the 'S' model and pick and choose the options you want. You won't regret it.

I got lucky. Found a 2013 with 26 months left on 4 yr 50k warranty, plus 2 yr extended warranty Countryman S with Nav, prem 2, cold weather, dual sunroof, 12, 150 miles for $25k . . . After getting full blue book for my 10 year old trade (trust me, it was a fair deal) it was $21800 out the door.