R61 Paceman officially dead?
#1
Paceman officially dead?
Went to the dealer yesterday (1-30-16) to place my order for a 2016 Paceman S to replace my '03 HT cooper S with 150k miles. Talking to the sales guy got it all picked out, had one question about boot stripes. He went to get the answer and came back with "They are not making Pacemans anymore" he was just as stunned as we were.
I know they eliminated the coupe and the roadster. But you can still build a paceman on the website. Seems like they should have alerted the dealer of the change.
Needless to say I am not a happy mini owner. Not really interested in the Countryman but would like to have all wheel drive.
I know they eliminated the coupe and the roadster. But you can still build a paceman on the website. Seems like they should have alerted the dealer of the change.
Needless to say I am not a happy mini owner. Not really interested in the Countryman but would like to have all wheel drive.
#3
#4
You mean as a 3rd gen? Even the current Countryman will be discontinued (replaced) this year.
Frankly I'm surprised that MINI kept the Paceman in production for as long as they did, despite consistently low sales month after month (http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobile...tml/?a=viewall).
Frankly I'm surprised that MINI kept the Paceman in production for as long as they did, despite consistently low sales month after month (http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobile...tml/?a=viewall).
#6
Yea,
Maybe production orders for the Gen 2 Paceman, Bet the Gen 3 Paceman is made under the new Countryman. MF had an article not to long ago about the PM not being killed off.
I would look for 2015 Paceman JCWs on lot.
Maybe production orders for the Gen 2 Paceman, Bet the Gen 3 Paceman is made under the new Countryman. MF had an article not to long ago about the PM not being killed off.
I would look for 2015 Paceman JCWs on lot.
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#8
A very rare JCW version indeed.
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#11
On lot at other dealerships, they can pull from other dealers. Beat there are some JCW's left that were showroom cars.
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#12
Hopefully the next gen Paceman hits the mark better than the first gen did. I really wanted to like mine, but after I got it I was constantly asking myself why I did. Looking at it, I never did quite figure out what it was trying to be. I think now that the Countryman is better looking -- and I'm one who's always preferred 2 doors over 4. And performance-wise, it was pretty disappointing for a MINI. That car desperately needs the added punch of the 2.0L turbo -- hopefully it gets to realize that potential. It's too bad, because in my mind it was a great idea on paper that just didn't translate in practice as well as it could/should have. Unfortunately it will go down as one of my more regrettable purchases.
#13
Was thinking about buying a Paceman S, but after reading lots of stuff we decided to wait. We cancelled the 2013 Paceman S buy we were doing. Keeping my '06 Cooper S a little longer after all.
Sad, but my baby was a gift from my husband. Hard to part with her.
Sad, but my baby was a gift from my husband. Hard to part with her.
Last edited by KalenaR; 02-21-2016 at 08:56 AM.
#14
Went to the dealer yesterday (1-30-16) to place my order for a 2016 Paceman S to replace my '03 HT cooper S with 150k miles. Talking to the sales guy got it all picked out, had one question about boot stripes. He went to get the answer and came back with "They are not making Pacemans anymore" he was just as stunned as we were.
I know they eliminated the coupe and the roadster. But you can still build a paceman on the website. Seems like they should have alerted the dealer of the change.
Needless to say I am not a happy mini owner. Not really interested in the Countryman but would like to have all wheel drive.
I know they eliminated the coupe and the roadster. But you can still build a paceman on the website. Seems like they should have alerted the dealer of the change.
Needless to say I am not a happy mini owner. Not really interested in the Countryman but would like to have all wheel drive.
#15
Good luck on the search I have seen them on lots. Might be able to get a very good price.
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#18
Did you at least get a good price for it?
#19
Not many of them around , think they would want for CPO.
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#20
Yeah it actually wasn't bad. It was a lease, and it ended up saving me money in the long run to sell it to them rather than finishing out the lease. They offered me over 2k more than both dealers I had it appraised at.
#21
Hopefully the next gen Paceman hits the mark better than the first gen did. I really wanted to like mine, but after I got it I was constantly asking myself why I did. Looking at it, I never did quite figure out what it was trying to be. I think now that the Countryman is better looking -- and I'm one who's always preferred 2 doors over 4. And performance-wise, it was pretty disappointing for a MINI. That car desperately needs the added punch of the 2.0L turbo -- hopefully it gets to realize that potential. It's too bad, because in my mind it was a great idea on paper that just didn't translate in practice as well as it could/should have. Unfortunately it will go down as one of my more regrettable purchases.
#22
I don't get it; you can still build one on the website and I read that they were moving the final year of production from Magna-Steyr in Graz, Austria to Oxford, UK.
"BMW's version of the MINI is an unusual vehicle, and it's built in unusual places. Currently, many MINIs are built in the Oxford, England plant that's most closely tied to the brand's heritage. But the Countryman and Paceman are made under contract by Magna Steyr in in Graz, Austria. The latter arrangement will end in 2016, moving some production to the brand's Oxford plant and some to a new partnership with VDL NedCar in the Netherlands.
Bringing some of the Paceman and Countryman production to Oxford will mark renewed output for the world's third-oldest car plant. With over 100 years of cars rolling through its doors, the Oxford plant was once known as the British Motor Corporation's Cowley plant. It was previously the production site of Morris Motors, Austin, Austin Healey, MG, Riley, Vanden Plas, Wolseley, Triumph, and even Honda, as well as the original Mini brand."
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-k-netherlands
BTW, I love my 2015 Mini Paceman Cooper S All4. I have a 2013 BMW M3 Competition Package car with the 7 Speed Dual Clutch Transmission and a Honda S2000, but my Paceman is my daily driver.
2013 BMW M3 ZCP DCT.
My Mini.
"BMW's version of the MINI is an unusual vehicle, and it's built in unusual places. Currently, many MINIs are built in the Oxford, England plant that's most closely tied to the brand's heritage. But the Countryman and Paceman are made under contract by Magna Steyr in in Graz, Austria. The latter arrangement will end in 2016, moving some production to the brand's Oxford plant and some to a new partnership with VDL NedCar in the Netherlands.
Bringing some of the Paceman and Countryman production to Oxford will mark renewed output for the world's third-oldest car plant. With over 100 years of cars rolling through its doors, the Oxford plant was once known as the British Motor Corporation's Cowley plant. It was previously the production site of Morris Motors, Austin, Austin Healey, MG, Riley, Vanden Plas, Wolseley, Triumph, and even Honda, as well as the original Mini brand."
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-k-netherlands
BTW, I love my 2015 Mini Paceman Cooper S All4. I have a 2013 BMW M3 Competition Package car with the 7 Speed Dual Clutch Transmission and a Honda S2000, but my Paceman is my daily driver.
2013 BMW M3 ZCP DCT.
My Mini.
Last edited by GVFlyer; 04-03-2016 at 05:14 PM.
#23
I don't get it; you can still build one on the website and I read that they were moving the final year of production from Magna-Steyr in Graz, Austria to Oxford, UK.
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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-k-netherlands
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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-k-netherlands
The current generation Countryman is ending and will close out production this year at Magna-Steyr. It is the new, next generation Countryman that will begin production elsewhere. It makes no sense to shift current production for only a few months.
I suspect that they left the Paceman on the website because there are still unsold vehicles on dealer lots. They should really remove the configurator if it's no longer possible to place a new order, but MINI USA has a long history of not keeping the website up to date.
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