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Old 05-19-2015, 08:31 PM
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Mini Cooper swaying around BADLY!

Hey all I just put camber bars on my mini,
Cambered the s*#% out of it. ( hate all you want ) but now on a test drive the rear is all over the place! Sways back and forth uncontrollably, Like dangerously!
Any ideas?
 

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Hmm I wonder...
 
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Did you get an alignment?
 
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Rear toe is out but I wouldn't think its out bad enough to do this, I can't even drive it to an alignment shop..
Plus most won't align it because how low it is..
 
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Might try and put it back to OEM camber and see if the car is still doing the same thing?.. Only other thing I can think of would be some worn suspension components/bushings or an alignment issue. Good luck!

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Sounds like its really dropped and its hard when its cambered out to get it straight. Also the rear trailing arm bushings might be tweaked or damaged / cracked now. ?
 
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Go back to your originall camber settings and see how it goes. Motor on.
 
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Looking at your pictures...OUCH...
YOU WILL BE LUCKY to get 1000 miles from the tires....its leaning so much from the camber...
Sounds like you need an alignment....
And maybe end links on the back...maybe double check your work...make sure everything is connected...car is sitting kinda odd...
 

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Originally Posted by Danny2Deeep
Hey all I just put camber bars on my mini,
Cambered the s*#% out of it. ( hate all you want ) but now on a test drive the rear is all over the place! Sways back and forth uncontrollably, Like dangerously!
Any ideas?

Now you realize what just because it looks cool....doesn't mean you should do it

You can't just drastically change your suspension geometry simply for looks....and then be surprised why it's all over the road.
 
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Originally Posted by Danny2Deeep
Cambered the s*#% out of it. ( hate all you want ) but now on a test drive the rear is all over the place!
Any ideas?
 
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I cannot see your original pic, does not show up for me. Can you repost.
 
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ECS Tuning: Try right click and open in new window; that's the only way it opened for me.
 
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ECS Tuning: Try right click and open in new window; that's the only way it opened for me.
That worked.
You wouldn't believe how many censorable thoughts went thru my mind when I saw the pictures of that poor car. IQRaceworks said it best.
 
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I looked at the photos and Now I'm thinking...about the how far everything is off to be cambered like that... I wonder if it created a caster issue as well with a toe in/out condition. Next aspect is are those wheels offset farther out from originals?

Looks like the wheels are offset and the only way you can get them under the rear wing is to camber it negative to the stop.

How much swing arm movement do you have?

Best of luck...

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So I finally got it on an alignment rack,
Toe was way out on one side and fine on the other..

Weird thing is that the side that was way out is maxed and still out.

I'm gonna have to find a way to get the trailing arm to go forward more on one side.

Yes to many it looks stupid. I get it.
I like form>function.
Just my opinion on my vehicles.

Wheel specs are 16x9 +10
That's why I had to camber so much to fit under fenders.
 
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Originally Posted by Danny2Deeep
So I finally got it on an alignment rack,
Toe was way out on one side and fine on the other..

Weird thing is that the side that was way out is maxed and still out.

I'm gonna have to find a way to get the trailing arm to go forward more on one side.

Yes to many it looks stupid. I get it.
I like form>function.
Just my opinion on my vehicles.

Wheel specs are 16x9 +10
That's why I had to camber so much to fit under fenders.

I remember when I was 16
 
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Yeah most old people have bad backs so can't handle the low ride, so I don't blame you for not liking my car
 
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Please keep the photo of the car and be brave enough to show it to your kids one day so they can have a really good laugh - though I bet by then you will deny you ever had a car like that and will claim only other people did.

Because:

"Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to change it every six months."

Oscar Wilde said that a century ago, when he wasn't much older than you. Everyone thinks the first fashion they fall for is style that will look great forever, but you can bet the next generation won't agree.

To me, 'stance' just says "I never drive quicker than a little old lady, so I need to look like this to feel cool".
 
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I'm more open to the hellaflush style than most but even I think that amount of rear camber is excessive. The front looks good, so why didnt you just get a more conservative wheel size in the back so it would fit more like the front? or just buy a less aggressive set of wheels to begin with so your not jumping through hoops to make it fit.

I get that your going for a certain look and I think that particular look can look nice if done correctly but it just seems like your sacrificing too much at this point for the sake of aesthetics. You'll be going through axles and tires like crazy and on top of that its not even safe to drive anymore. And this is not coming from an old man, I'm only 20 myself.
 
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If you are going to do it....go big

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I was just able to check out the picture, and honestly ive seen more minis with more camber, once that rear toe is fixed youll be fine. and he doesn't have to worry about the rear axles, since there is none =)


personally im not a stance guy, but I do like to look at the stances, I think its amazing and mini's look really good stanced as with miatas, but its like neutering an animal, I prefer my handling too much to stance =D
 
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The Beach Boys many years ago sang about your car in No Go Showboat. I love the line "it's even outran by the ice cream truck." It is your car and if you like it that is what counts. Motor on
 
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