F55/F56 This looks interesting
#1
This looks interesting
Considering Dinan's long relationship with BMW, nice to see Mini supported again. Looks to have some adjust-ability via BT.
https://www.ecstuning.com/News/MINI_...92016_DS_23056
https://www.ecstuning.com/News/MINI_...92016_DS_23056
#2
Yep,
We just emailed out about their exhaust also. They are back in the MINI game and we are happy to have the product.
https://www.ecstuning.com/News/MINI_Dinan_Exhaust_F56_F55_23056/
Here is talk about the MINI Gen3 Dinantronic:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nd-play-3.html
We just emailed out about their exhaust also. They are back in the MINI game and we are happy to have the product.
https://www.ecstuning.com/News/MINI_Dinan_Exhaust_F56_F55_23056/
Here is talk about the MINI Gen3 Dinantronic:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nd-play-3.html
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#3
The exhaust seems like a great deal and, given the Dinan name, I'm sure it's a great product. To me, it looks very cheaply made, especially when compared to the finish of the NM and AWE exhausts (and others). Plus, they state that only one outlet is functional. On the ones mentioned above, both outlets function.
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#5
It's noted in the descriptions. They do this to match the aesthetics of the dual exhaust that's characteristic of MINI. They make some really good stuff for BMW and its the same for MINI.
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#6
Yeah it's noted in the descriptions which is good on your part, but just terrible on Dinan's R&D to make only one exhaust outlet usable. I just can't believe that they are pushing out products like this now.
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To be fair its not unprecedented in the least. The Dinan E36 M3 exhaust had 4 tips, only 2 of which were functional as did the Dinan E9x M3 exhaust as a couple well known examples. Reasoning ranges but you can view the E9x white paper at http://www.dinancars.com/dinan-university/ as to why we went that methodology in that particular case. We go after the best sound and performance is the short of it. If that means sacrificing a usable tip then so be it. The MINI exhaust in question is no exception. In this particular case the best sound came through one outlet so that's what we went with. Not to mention it allows the price point to be more attractive in the process as extra welding is eliminated. If you want air coming out both tips and that is of utmost importance to you there are plenty of other options out there to choose from.
#11
This is something I won't be able to unsee. If I ever see a Dinan exhaust, the very first thing I'll think is that one of the tubes is completely fake and does nothing. Also for the Dinan M3 exhausts.
Frankly, it hurts the company image. If I see a Dinan intake, I'll wonder what's really going on in there as well. Yeah, Dinan will be quick to tell us about their thousands of happy customers.
Do they make a triple exhaust with TWO fake tubes? Maybe stage 2 tuning will have it.
Frankly, it hurts the company image. If I see a Dinan intake, I'll wonder what's really going on in there as well. Yeah, Dinan will be quick to tell us about their thousands of happy customers.
Do they make a triple exhaust with TWO fake tubes? Maybe stage 2 tuning will have it.
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Years ago K&N made sport exhaust systems, designed to rival Gibson, except the K&N systems made more noise (or sounded better, depending on one's age and aesthetic sense).
I had the K&N installed on my sport truck. Sounded good and possibly netted a few additional single digits in top end HP, but nothing I could feel in daily driving.
When the cat in the sport truck went out I went to the best muffler/performance exhaust guy in town and he said, with the K&N exhaust I already had, he could add a low-restriction cat which, when combined with the K&N would give me a few more horses, but he'd be surprised if I could notice the difference in butt-dyno results. I also had a K&N intake on the truck.
What I learned from all of that is there are small, measurable gains to be had if one does intake, cat, and exhaust, but the real joy is found in the sound, which can usually be achieved for a fraction of the cost by the simple addition of a less-restrictive, well-tuned muffler.
So it comes down to aesthetics, plus maybe a little more zoom, which is only noticed when you really put your foot into it, in my experience.
I had the K&N installed on my sport truck. Sounded good and possibly netted a few additional single digits in top end HP, but nothing I could feel in daily driving.
When the cat in the sport truck went out I went to the best muffler/performance exhaust guy in town and he said, with the K&N exhaust I already had, he could add a low-restriction cat which, when combined with the K&N would give me a few more horses, but he'd be surprised if I could notice the difference in butt-dyno results. I also had a K&N intake on the truck.
What I learned from all of that is there are small, measurable gains to be had if one does intake, cat, and exhaust, but the real joy is found in the sound, which can usually be achieved for a fraction of the cost by the simple addition of a less-restrictive, well-tuned muffler.
So it comes down to aesthetics, plus maybe a little more zoom, which is only noticed when you really put your foot into it, in my experience.
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And one additional point, if I may. I learned from an engineer I trust that back pressure and exhaust temperature receive a lot of attention from car manufacturers who are under the gun to lower emissions, increase fuel economy, and control costs. It was his considered view that the premature failure of the cat in my sport truck could be attributable to changes in back pressure and exhaust temperature resulting from the addition of the K&N high-flow cat-back exhaust system, or, he opined, the additional hot-rodding I was doing after I installed the exhaust, which was certainly possible because I was always trying to convince myself that I had added more grunt when I bolted on the new exhaust system, and to do that, I definitely developed a heavier foot on the gas -- besides, that's how you hear the sound
#18
Sounds good but I don't like that you can see almost the full exhaust from behind the car, I mean the muffler part.
Yep,
We just emailed out about their exhaust also. They are back in the MINI game and we are happy to have the product.
https://www.ecstuning.com/News/MINI_Dinan_Exhaust_F56_F55_23056/
https://youtu.be/oR35b5LZtVY
Here is talk about the MINI Gen3 Dinantronic:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nd-play-3.html
We just emailed out about their exhaust also. They are back in the MINI game and we are happy to have the product.
https://www.ecstuning.com/News/MINI_Dinan_Exhaust_F56_F55_23056/
https://youtu.be/oR35b5LZtVY
Here is talk about the MINI Gen3 Dinantronic:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...nd-play-3.html
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To be fair its not unprecedented in the least. The Dinan E36 M3 exhaust had 4 tips, only 2 of which were functional as did the Dinan E9x M3 exhaust as a couple well known examples. Reasoning ranges but you can view the E9x white paper at http://www.dinancars.com/dinan-university/ as to why we went that methodology in that particular case. We go after the best sound and performance is the short of it. If that means sacrificing a usable tip then so be it. The MINI exhaust in question is no exception. In this particular case the best sound came through one outlet so that's what we went with. Not to mention it allows the price point to be more attractive in the process as extra welding is eliminated. If you want air coming out both tips and that is of utmost importance to you there are plenty of other options out there to choose from.
#22
Most lower production systems for sale are usually made under private label which can keep the prices up.
I was fortunate to work in the aftermarket for many years, developing products and getting them manufactured. Started working with an Australian company who was making us product under contract . In our search to find a domestic company to manufacture we found a company in California. They manufacture exhausts for large trucks and are able to mandrel bend up to 5 inch diameter tubing. Touring their facility quickly showed that they make many brands for low volume companies.
Given the time I would love to develop and market exhausts at a reasonable price. The key would be to sell directly to the end user.
Sorry for going off topic
#23
The Dinan just looks cheap and the Borla has positive comments here and on YouTube...