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Here are the sport button mods that I'm aware of, and a plug as to why I think anyone who wants to buy one should either roll their own or buy mine...
A couple of comments: I built this table, but am not an expert on the other offerings. So any mistakes are my own and were not intentional. But anyway, the FES Auto product has more features than any other unit out there.
The reason I put this together is someone here on NAM bought a competing unit (that's OK if someone really wants to) and I pm'ed him to ask him why, and he said it was because he didn't know about the one I make! So I'm posting this comparison up so all can see what's out there (if you know of another product, let me know and I'll update the table.
some other notes: The Auto Sportplus won't add start/stop engine control to cars that don't currently have it. For cars with only the two buttons (DSC and Sport) it's really only easy to wire up two accessory channels, though it is possible to use a separate button to control the third, it's probably easier to just wire up that switch directly to whatever you want to power.
Hope those that are thinking about the mod find this usefull. If you want to roll your own, there are threads here about how to do it. The KB product is available from OutMotoring if you're interested in buying it from a NAM vendor.
If you want to upgrade from either the MachV unit or the KB Tech unit ONLY, we have a special offer described here.
2. Why can I not get this shipped to an APO? How do I ship this otherwise?
E-mail Matt about it: mattr@fes-auto.com. The FES website was originally set up for UPS shipment (no APO), but he has just switched over to USPS which should be fine for APO addresses.
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the FES unit can also set the DSC mode automatically at start up, as well as the auto start/stop if your car has it. The accessory control has been used for controlling aftermarket heated seats using the sport and DSC buttons as well.
And FES has no problem shipping to APOs. The CC processor flags those transactions as suspect. If you have a problem with the order via the web-site, you can e-mail me at mattr@fes-auto.com, like Richard says, or paypal the order total (including the flat rate shipping) to sales@fes-auto.com. Put the order details into the comments on the paypal order.
Hmm, My last car was an 1999 e36 M3. It had a sport button too. I remember seeing a mod for that car on roadfly.com which used a capacitor and resistor soldered to the back of the switch to accomplish the same thing. If I can find it I'll post the link.
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09 JCW Cooper HzB/Blk, Sport sp + Alta 22 rsb + NM, Konig Feathers, HID error free conv, hyperyellow fogs, LED signals, LED plates, LED int (all), LED rear fogs, LED eyelids, cree LED reverse lights, black beltline
10 JCW Clubman Blk/Blk, JCW checker mats, 19 RSB, Rear spoiler, Challenge graphics, hyper yellow fogs, LED error free plate, HID error free. no yoke turns
but they are rather limited. They can't do anything with the newer multimode DSC systems (like the DSC/DTC/eDLC on the new cars). They also can't be disabled (like for dealer visits) without being disconnected from the wiring. But they do work for mimicking a single button press when the car is started and they are inexpensive.
My unit has three button channels, can do the multi-mode DSC and can control accessories. It may not be for everyone, but it offers more than the others do.
Apparently you cannot completely disable the traction control with the factory buttons. This thread explains the three modes available without doing any mod. However no matter what it appears if you get slippage or you want the back to come around to help steer, this car wont do it.
With that in mind are you saying this mod can get around the factory settings and actually disable the traction control (so you can spin the tires continuously with wide open throttle and hang the back out etc, like I can on my 05 MCS)? or is it an easy way to program the buttons we already have (and just move the point of intervention)?
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09 JCW Cooper HzB/Blk, Sport sp + Alta 22 rsb + NM, Konig Feathers, HID error free conv, hyperyellow fogs, LED signals, LED plates, LED int (all), LED rear fogs, LED eyelids, cree LED reverse lights, black beltline
10 JCW Clubman Blk/Blk, JCW checker mats, 19 RSB, Rear spoiler, Challenge graphics, hyper yellow fogs, LED error free plate, HID error free. no yoke turns
I don't really know the answer, but it sounds to me like it might be more a function of the combo with the LSD?
I'm glad I went with minimal options and just have the basic ASC on mine. As far as I can tell, when it is off, it is off, as I have not experienced a reduction in power when I've turned it off.
This mode won't get around any programming of the car...
all these mods do is automatically do the button action for you on start up, so you don't have to. The car will default to full DSC, non-sport, auto start/stop and each time you start the engine, you have to re-select the mode you prefere. All the various modules just configure the DSC the way you like it. Ours is also compatible with the DSC/DTC/eDLC mode in the newest Minis.
If you have any more questions, feel free to post them here, or e-mail me at mattr@fes-auto.com
But it's not for the "roll your own" el cheapo. It's for the AmazingGrando and the KP Technologies that OutMotoring sold. $35 via paypal to sales@fes-auto.com, and send the old unit to
FES Auto
325 Sharon Park Dr. #652
Menlo Park, CA 94025
When we get your old unit, the new one goes out to you!
all these mods do is automatically do the button action for you on start up, so you don't have to. The car will default to full DSC, non-sport, auto start/stop and each time you start the engine, you have to re-select the mode you prefere. All the various modules just configure the DSC the way you like it. Ours is also compatible with the DSC/DTC/eDLC mode in the newest Minis.
If you have any more questions, feel free to post them here, or e-mail me at mattr@fes-auto.com
Matt
Does your unit work on the 2011-2012 models?
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Smoke05s
2012 MCSc, 6sp, PW/HC, Cold/Prem/JCW pkgs, HKS, etc. PW#6708
