Ok the wheel fitment information on the site is completely unintelligable to me, so has anyone fitted the 12.2 bbk to the 16 inch X-lites?

Or does anyone know how to figure out if this will fit or not? Thanks for your knowledge and experiences...

mb

 

X-Lites are tough. They give little to no room for the caliper. There was no way my X-lites were going to fit over my 13" kit, even with a 5mm spacer. That's all I can tell you.

 

Thanks - looks like I'll have to do some more research. When all is said and done, I may just upgrade my pads and stick with stock rotors since I will only be doing 3 track days a year on my 23,000 mile a year daily driver.

Any other suggestions?

mb

 

X-Lite fit over my Wilwood 11.75" kit (Race Kit) with out any spacer, however the clearance is very small. Not sure if it would fit the size you are getting.

Cheers

 

Thanks - it seems that if I want one of these kits, the 11.75 is the size I'll have to go with. What are your impressions of it on the street?

mb

 

The kit come standard with E pads which are rotor friendly and have moderate stopping power however brake dust is present. This pads are also ok for trackday but will fade if the track is heavy on brake. I would reccomend you to stick with this option for street and light track. You also have the B pads option for track, they are excellence pads for track but unforgiving on street. Do not use the B pads on the street, see my post here https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=55109 :impatient. I would give it a 10 out of 10 for this kit, IMHO I think it is the best bang for the buck for the BBK. Oh, and get them from Todd, he've always been there when I needed some help!

Cheers

 

Thanks so much for the info - looks like this is the route I'll go when it's time for new brakes (fairly soon). Only issue I forsee now is fitting them under my 15in steel snows. Well, those can always be sold

Does anyone else have the 11.75 race kit?

mb

 

The 11.75 'should' clear the 15s. At least radially they will. Not sure of the spoke shapes and such.

These two kits are really pretty much the same package. One has a beefier rotor, the other a booted caliper etc. etc. The bracket, rotor width and spacing is pretty much the same.

The 12.2 kit simply uses a spacer on the radial mount stud to pull the caliper out a bit more to fit the slightly larger rotor. About .220" in fact.

Speaking of rotors....I might list a couple of sets of std 12.2 rotors and hats in the F/S forum too. If someone wants a second set this may prove a pretty good deal.

 

I've ordered the new S Works GP. I do not think the Works brake kit has a competition (race) pad, but only a street pad. Thus I assume I will want to replace the Works brakes with a Wilwood kit for primarily track use. I will want a non booted caliper. And another set of pads for some street use.
Would that be a 12.2 or an 11.75 size?

Thanks

 

For track use the 11.75 is the way to go. Unless you can do the 13s of course.

The 11.75 is non booted so no melted seals. The rotors are 'better' in that they are directional vaned.

The 12.2 is booted. Rotors are non DV and plain finish.

Details of them all can be found on the web page:
http://www.tceperformanceproducts.com

 

Why is "booted" apparently better for the street, while non booted is better for the track? Also, are those the only (besides size) appreciable differences between the 12.2 and the 11.75?

mb

 

Many folks feel a booted caliper is better for street use to keep out dust and moisture. And most street kits get little service after the install. The race caliper is generally non booted as the pistons are stainless steel for better heat rejection, a bit better reaction and release, Also boots tend to melt under extreme temps of track use. No, there are more differences; rotor design and style, pads, and of course diameter. Full details of each are on the web page.

 

Todd,

I was going to e-mail this question directly to you but figured I would put it up for all to see since it sort of ties to the thread. I was considering using this kit next year on a car that does drivers events and is street driven (about 7-8K a year) and driven at least some in the New England winter. What's your take on the boot vs non boot versions for inclement weather (i.e. salt). Obviously booted is more desirable but how much additional maintenance is going to be required on the non-boot and how often?

Also do you know if the smaller (11.75" i think) kit clear X-lites.

Thanks in advance,

 

I did this research and found that it is not likely that the 12.2 will fit the x-lites, but the 11.75 definitely will.

I looked at Todd's fitment list via the pdf on the page, and it didn't make any sense to me, so I couldn't tell what fit and what didn't. The above information is from reading posts.

mb

 

While salt and grime can be an issue, I have to say that booted calipers represent less then maybe 5% (mainly now the MINI kits) of everything I sell. And many folks certainly run in foul weather just fine with the ss pistons.

Keys to long life without them is to simply keep the pads up. Replace them heading into the winter month. Clean the caliper with a toothbrush and retract the pistons with it being clean. Fresh pads assure you of less exposure to grime stuck to the piston. SS pistons don't 'fall apart' in the foul weather! Most of the damages are done not with the weather but after when care is not taken to clean things prior to retraction.