Does anyone drive these?

I'm looking for a more aggressive set of tires for the oem 16's I have (but I don't want to buy a new set of rims). These seem to be the most attractive, on paper.

Any other suggestions for a very good street tire? I am looking for handling, cornering, etc.

Here is the link at Tire Rack

Thanks for your help
David

 

I love replying to myself :smile:

Anyway, I have also found these in "MINI" size.
Yokohama AVS ES100
and
Sumitomo HTR Z II

The Sumitomos are $77 bucks and the Yokos $80.

Niether 'rates' as good as the Goodyear, but then again no one rated them on cars configured, weighing or driving like a MINI.

Anyone have any experience with the three?

 

I'm considering both the Goodyear's and the Yoko's for my future MCS. I have used Yoko ES100's as street tires and "wet" track tires on another (heavier) car. I like them very much on the street.

In the wet, they did not hydroplane easily. However, they also did not offer especially impressive traction. I suspect this was more a matter of high expectations vs. a cold, slippery track, since everyone had the same experience that day. They were manageable, and I was among the quickest (still pretty slow) in those conditions. I have also had them on the track in the dry, and have been pleased (but not wowed) with the cornering and wear.

As you mentioned, it is tough to say how a tire will perform when the cars are very dissimilar. I would have no qualms recommending this tire to an enthusiast driver. However, I'm leaning toward the Goodyear myself, mostly due to the Tire Rack ratings, which lead me to believe there's more performance with little or no penalty in noise or comfort and only a marginal loss in wear. Frankly, they seem a bit too good to be true. But for $176 difference, I'm likely to try them.

If there's anyone out there with first hand experience, David and I need your input.

 

The Tire Rack classifies the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 as a "Max Performance Summer" tire and the Yokohama AVS ES100 and Sumitomo HTR Z II as "Ultra High Performance Summer" tires.

The Tire Rack Ultra High Performance Summer Survey ranks the following tire ahead of the Yokohama and Sumitomo tires:

BFG KDW2

Alex

 

Hey guys,

I don't have first hand experience, but I've read so many posts here about tires, and can tell you what I've heard. F1 GS-D3 and AVS ES 100 are really good performing tires in both dry and wet, with the ES100 costing less so a good buy. F1 GS-D3 the better performer in dry and wet but not by much, however, it is back ordered as I recall (at TireRack) and hard to get. ES100 is softer tread and when it gets warmed up gets sticky which helps handling, but it wears more than the GS-D3. I haven't heard or can't remember anything about the Sumitomo. Another great tire that matches the G3-D3 in dry and wet handling is the Bridgestone Potenza S-03. Alex at TireRack recommends it highly, and some have said that it is their first pick if you live in the east where it rains a lot, as it is great performing in the rain. I like the looks of it, but it is not as agressive looking as the GS-D3 and ES 100. I've heard it is just a little heavy, but I'm not sure how true that is as the tire weights given on the link at the beginning of this tire section show that it is heavy in a smaller 16 inch size but not any heavier in the larger 17 inch size than other tires, so I'm thinking there is a typo, so that either it is slightly heavier or is not. If you want light tires, I've heard Toyo has lighter ones. Can't remember which tire though, maybe the Proxes. Hope that helps.

Another popular tire is Falken Azenis, which perform great, then get slippery when heated up. So, if you are in a colder climate great.

 

I have the F1 GS-D3's on my MCS. I got them last year and simply love them. They are 205-50-16's. They handle great and ride better than the runflats. They seem to be wearing better than I would have thought as well. I have about 10,000 miles on them and I'd say they are only about 1/2 way worn. I will definitely buy them again

 

i have the 215/45 xy17 of the F1s...very happy with them. very quiet and grippy...not to mention light years ahead in comfort over those annoying run flats!

 

i currently have the es100's in 205/50-16. great buy.

i was looking for more performance and spoke to alex about bfg g-force kw2 vs. goodyear gs-d3. basically he thought the gs-d3 were better performance tire all around. although in reading the few comments on the kdw2 would lead me to believe those tires are slightly better.

but i believe the gs-d3 are out in 205/50/16. they have beeen for the last 6 months or so. but aare available in 215/45/17, which i'm planning on getting for my 17" rims.

i was able to grab a set of kdw2 from alex in 205/50/16 for when my es 100s wear out. however, even these are hard to come by as costco can't get their hands on these, at least in hawaii, and alex only had 2 sets at that time. but they're available in 17's.

price for kdw2 and gs-d3 is close, like <$10 difference per tire. and cheaper than the so3. btw, tirerack is even cheaper than your local goodyear dealer for the gs-d3, at least here in hawaii it is.

 

Comments on the GS-D3 versus the KDW2? Either of them would be purchased in the 205/50/16 size. I'm looking at these 2 tires to replace my run-flats which are toast at 35K.

 

You got 35k out of the runflats?!?! Maybe you have the Dunlops and they last longer than pirelli cause I have the pirelli's and get 15K at most. But you might drive more sane than me to.

 

I have the Eagle F1 GS-D3 on my 1990 535i and am very pleased with them. Excellent handling in dry and wet and very quiet so far. I'll probably use them again on my MCS. I think that the Bridgestone S03 is probably a bit better dual purpose tire for track and street as it seems to be a bit more durable, but I believe the original poster was inquiring about street use only, so big thumbs up on the GS-D3.


Tom Der
North Hampton, NH

2005 MCS Works
1991 M3
1990 535i

 

im running the GS-D3's 205/50/16's on my 16x7.5 SSR Comps. excellent street tire. It's very comparable to the S03 in terms of grip, just a tad
softer sidewall (no tramlining, softer turn-in response making straightline
stability higher).

 

I"m on my second set of these ( BFG KDW/2 ) and have been really pleased. Prior to these I have had Bridgstone Re 050, Falkon's and Nitto's 455 Extreme. The KDW 's are great in the canyons once they warm up and even survived and performed well on a track day .

Randy
M7 Tuning

 

Love my BF Goodrich KDW-2's!!!...........................mgg

 

I'm on my second set of the Yokohama's. It's a great all round tire for street and auto-x. At the price you can't go wrong for a dry and wet condition tire.

 

Today I received my new set of F1 GS-D3s after ordering them Wednesday afternoon, size 205/50/ZR16 (says YR on the TR website).

Thanks to Alex @ Tire Rack for quick, efficient, and friendly service! :smile: Baby gonna have some new shoes soon...

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I have a stack of new Goodyear F1 215/45 17's sitting in my garage right now, just waiting on the new wheels to get here. Glad to hear they are fitting well. What offset are you running hafid?

Excellent service from Tire Rack by the way. I will be back...

TIA

 

Just got my F1s mounted and balanced today - whooa much smoother ride than the run-flats .

Recommended pressures for these babies - size 205/50/16?

 

Volume is equal to your oe, use OE pressure - or whatever you've been running.

Alex

 

The Good Eagle F1 GS-D3 are better performing tires than the Yokohama ES100 or the Sumitomos. The Eagles cost alot more so you get what you pay for.

Higher cost max performance tires commonly used are:
Bridgestone Potenza Pole position S-03 but they are about $195 (costco with shipping) or a bit less from tirerack + shipping. They do weigh more.
And the Eagle F1 GS-D3 which has really good test results on tirerack's site and price that is a little less. Both these tires offer excellent dry and wet handling.

Ultra high perf tires cost less and provide good peformance-
Yokohama AVS ES100 and Parada Spec 2 are in that class.

On a budget the Yokohama ES100 are good and some owners also like the all season Toyo Proxes 4.

 

Tire Rack has Eagles on sale in certain sizes (205/ 50/16, for one), now. Much cheaper than Bridgestones with which they most closely compare. As soon as my Rota Slipstreams are powdercoated I'm mounting them up and ditching my run flats.

 

Another size to consider is 205/45/16, as there's a lot of good tires available in that size, such as the Pirelli PZero Nero, which weighs only 18 lbs in that size (for $118), and is rated very high in the Max Performance summer tires, with performance close to the Bridgestone Potenza S-03 per TireRack test. I really like this tire size, as it has a diameter of 23.2 inches to help acceleration (as standard diam is 24") and the 45 series profile will help steering response and handling. Plus, it's reasonably quiet, but does tramline a bit, and is a good all around performer, as it actually works decently in snow (somewhat at least). However, 205/45/16 is the only 16 inch size, and for 17s it is only in 215/40/17 (22 lbs) and 215/35/17 (19 lbs). Also, for high performance all season there's the PZero Nero M+S (19 lbs in 205/45/16 at $84), with a tread that looks just like the regular PZero Nero. :smile: