Sorry if I missed something......where does it say what the stock wheel offset is?


Thanks

Tim

 

WRR suggested a used set of 16" V spokes for track rims. The R84 is known as the x-lite. Is the R88 known as the V spoke?

What is the weight of a R88?

Thanks in advance!

 

The R84 is called both the X-lite (UK) and V-spoke (US) and weighs 17.6lb.

The R88 is called the "double-spoke" and weighs 19.6lb.

http://www.mini2.com/forum/faq.php?f...factory_wheels

 

Anybody actually weigh the Vspoke/Xlite on an accurate scale? I was selling a set and at the post office one wheel in a cardboard box scaled at 21 lbs. I don't think the cardboard box weighed 3.4 lbs.

 

could I get the original specs for the R88 OEM wheels, please? Jock (pictured beside my name above)

 

Click on the link on Post #28 and you shall find.

 

doesn't give width and offset, but thanks for the tip!

 

I to was surprised at their weight. I'm trying to haggle for an '03 with holies and didn't really like the look but I'm all about practicality. At that weight, they are keepers.
Would probably get some 16x7s with radials for summer and gatherings and use the holies for the daily grind.

 

did that thread die? im looking for oem specs.

 

The link is no longer active.

For MINI OEM wheels, offsets and weights try
http://www.mini2.com/forum/faq.php?f...factory_wheels

Some 2006-2007 updates for quick reference
15" with 175/65-15 non runflat tire
R100 5 spoke Spooler 15x5.5" et 45 13.7 lbs. silver or white (standard MC)
R101 Rotator Spoke 15x5.5" et 45 15.7 lbs. silver or white (optional for MC)

16" with 195/55-16 runflat tire
R102 S Winder 16x6.5" et 48 17.4 lbs. silver or white (standard for MCS) (note this was weighed at 16.6 lbs by motormouth, see below)
R94 Bridge Spoke 16x6.5" et 48 20.9 lbs. silver or white (optional for MCS)
R103 5 Star Blaster 16x6.5" et 48 19 lbs. silver or white (optional MCS)

17" with 205/45-17 runflat tire
R104 Crown Spoke 17x7" et 48 22.7 lbs. silver or white
R97 Flame Spoke 17x7" et 48 22 lbs. silver or white
R98 Web Spoke 17x7" et 48 22.3 lbs. Silver only
R90 Cross Spoke 17x7" et 48 24.1 lbs. Silver or Anthracite/polished lip
R99 Double Spoke 17x7" et 48 21.9 lbs. Silver, Anthracite, Polished
R108 MultiSpoke 17x7" et 48 22.9 lbs. Silver only

18" with 205/40-18 runflat tire
R95 Spider Spoke 18x7" et 52 23.5 lbs. Silver only
R105 Double Spoke 18x7" et 52 23.3 lbs. Bright turned, matte black
R107 GP 18x7" et 52 19.8 lbs. Bright turned black
R109 Double Spoke (2 piece) et 52 25.4 lbs. Silver only

 

Blue,

If you just plan to do the occasional autocross, stick with yoiur stock tires and wheels, or whatever tire/wheel combination you use for everyday driving. Learn to get the most of that set up, and if you decide that you really like autocrossing, still stay with the stock situp for at least a year. This is widely given advice.

The reason for learning to autox on street tires is that racing tires cover up mistakes and actually hamper a novice driver's ability to feel what is happening at the tire/pavement intersection. When you can get your times to within 2-4 seconds (on a minute course) of the good drivers in your class who are on racing tires, that is the time to consider racing tires and an extra set of wheels.

Racing tires wear rapidly and they are expensive. It takes a good driver to make best use of them. Top autocross drivers who do National events can easily spend $5,000 per year on tires.

Before you do anything to your car, read the current rules for the class in which you want to compete. I urge anyone to stay in stock classes for their first year or so. There are a lot of good reasons for this which I won't go into now, but trust me, it's good advice.

If you really want to get good at autocrossing, follow the above advice and then spend the money you saved on an autocross school such as the Evolution program, or a similar program. Such schools are a lot of fun, and you can learn more in a weekend than in a season of doing events without targeted instruction. Also, in autocrossing, seat time is perhaps the most important thing to improve learning.

There are also some street tire classes that mandate the use of tires with a tread wear rating of 140 or higher. Racing tires typically have tread wear ratings between 30 and 60.

Happy motoring,


Joe S.

 

I just replaced my 06 (non s) Tires and wheels. The Delta Spoke (this was a no charge option in 06) and OEM tire weighed 28 lbs on my scale. The tire is listed as 17 lbs at Tire Rack, so the wheel is 11 lbs.
The reason I bought new wheels was to accomodate wider/ stickier tires. The 15x6.5 Montegi Track light was 10 lbs and the KDW2 in 205/55/15 was 22 lbs. My scale confirmed this weight. Unfortunatly, my new set up adds 4 lbs/corner. I am not sure how this effects performance yet. I am running different front and rear pressure and the tires are wider and have more traction, but the car feels a little bit sluggish off the line. Maybe it is a matter of getting used to the new feel. Traction, on the other hand is impressive.
At some point, I will try other tire in less than oem diameter and maybe 195/?/15 to find the sweet spot. Any other non s owners have similar observations?

 

the 16" S-winder rim is 16lbs 10 oz by itself. not too bad!

 

Well that doesn't make sense.
MINI2.com lists the S-winder as
R102 S Winder 16x6.5" et 48 22 lbs.

Still looking for the weight on-
R101 Rotator Spoke 15x5.5" et 45 ? lbs.

 

MINI2 is wrong on this.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=97035

 

I am buying winter rims/tires from TireRack and my question is do I need to get them to also put a TPMS sensor on them too? I was reading through the threads and get conflicting notes for my 06 MCS system. Can anyone lend me some of their experiences on this?

 

Alex,
When will you guys begin carrying the Michelin E3A 175/65 R15s? They're now standard on MCs. Saw them on one in the showroom last week.

Also, a buddy told me that performance wouldn't improve by getting wider tire (185, 195, etc.). His claim is that surface patch is determined by weight and pressure. It is his contention that MINI has tested all manner of tire combinations and settled on the best.

Your thoughts?

If this is too far off topic for this thread, please use a backchannel.

 

06 MCS = no TPMS sensors. don't worry about it.

you're so far off topic from the OP.

but to answer your contact patch question. MINI's don't only come with 175's. they also have 205 for the 17" and 18" wheels. so you're friends theory might be true for another car, but not so much for the MINI.

your particular tire size has more to do with the width of the rim that your car came with.
see this thread for more info on wheel sizes: http://www.mini2.com/forum/faq.php?f...heel_tire_tech

 

I feel better that I do not have to worry about getting these put on. Thanks for your help!

 

glnr13,
You're right. Far off topic. Just took a shot as a tgt of opp. Sorry. Thanks for the info, though.

R