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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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will 2004 16in. rims fit a 2009???

Hey guys will 2004 16 inch rims fit my 2009 mini???
Or am I wasting my money
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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Should fit coopers with regular brakes. Not sure about tpms. Which wheels are they?

But most likey will not fit the JCW big brakes.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:13 PM
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Wont fit..The 04 uses 12mm studs and the 09 uses 14mm.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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If they are OEM rims, the studs will fit, but who knows about brakes. mini2.com has a good faq for wheel fitment.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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Depends on the wheel and the car

If the 2009 is an MCS only certain 16 in wheels work because the others won't clear the bigger front brakes on the R56. The X-lites (R84) won't fit - I've actually checked that. The R90's, the R92's and R102's should fit. There was an announcement on "Motoring Files" about which wheels would fit when the JCW Brake kit came out for the R53. Those are the same brakes on the R56.
As for Jarad's comment about the bolt size - it's true, but that can be worked around. Texas Speedwerks sells a stud kit which threads into the 14 mm holes in the axel but has 12 mm studs to slide the wheel over. Or you could just take them to a machine shop and drill them out. The 60 degree chamfer in the bolt holes is what holds the wheels on, not shaft friction. I drilled some out with a 9/16ths bit and they worked fine.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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I run 16" rims on my r56 MCS and it fits over the brakes.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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will 2004 16in. rims fit a 2009???

Go here: http://www.mini2.com/forum/faq.php?f...heel_tire_tech

The Mini2 site lists all OEM wheels and tires.
It also specifies what will fit each generation and model.

Hope this helps...
 
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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with a stud conversion to 12mm studs, yes they will fit an 07+ MCS
 
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Old Oct 17, 2009 | 08:27 AM
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Stud conversion is not required for OEM wheels (but may be for after market wheels). See the mini2.com faq on this question. It has a table for fitment and the following:

On July 12, 2006 the size of wheel bolts was changed from M12x1.5 to M14x1.25. There exists a misconception that this change in wheel bolt size precludes fitting early OEM wheels on later model cars. This is simply not true as all OEM wheels have holes large enough for either size wheel bolt.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 06:22 AM
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2nd Gen wheels on 1st Gen car -

per the above discussion and the Mini2 faq then; the larger 14 mm holes in factory 2nd gen wheels will fit correctly on a 1st Gen 12Mm car. i.e. no bushing needed, as stud is 12mm in a 14mm hole?

Is this as the seat (cone) and face of wheel is taking the load, not the bolt holes?

still curious even though the faq does list as a correct fit.

Interesting as we come full circle -I sold the 08 Clubman, now in a 04 S hardtop - and invested $ in business -but have a set of mounted snows leftover -therefore the question.

any confirmation/expertise welcome
 
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lawrie
per the above discussion and the Mini2 faq then; the larger 14 mm holes in factory 2nd gen wheels will fit correctly on a 1st Gen 12Mm car. i.e. no bushing needed, as stud is 12mm in a 14mm hole?

Is this as the seat (cone) and face of wheel is taking the load, not the bolt holes?

still curious even though the faq does list as a correct fit.

Interesting as we come full circle -I sold the 08 Clubman, now in a 04 S hardtop - and invested $ in business -but have a set of mounted snows leftover -therefore the question.

any confirmation/expertise welcome
The MINI lug bolts have gone from 12 mm to 14 mm, but the holes in the OEM wheels have always been ~16 mm, so either size lug bolt will fit through any of the OEM wheels. You're correct that it's the bolt taper and the wheel hole chamfer that form the mating surfaces and take the load.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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The ones that I tried fit properly -- including the 14mm studs, but the TPMS transmitter used in the Gen II cars needs a wider and flatter mounting surface than the one available on the Gen I cars. I only tried one wheel type but I would presume that the valve seat area is similar. If you are not concerned with a little yellow triangle on the instrument cluster, there should be no problem.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 07:36 AM
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2nd Gen whhels on 1st Gen car

Thank you both,
Makes sense on fitting and brakes should be fine, as nothing special.

No TPM on these wheels (yes, I spent last winter with yellow light on my Clubman binnacle)

And 04's did have TPM's as they ran Run Flats?. Forgot about that.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lawrie

And 04's did have TPM's as they ran Run Flats?. Forgot about that.
'04s did have a TPMS system, but it didn't use sensors in the wheel - it just used differences in the wheel speeds to detect low pressure. If one wheel was turning significantly faster than its partner on the other side of the car, it was assumed that the faster tire was losing pressure.
 
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