Suspension Suspension?
Since I like to consider suspension as an entire system working together in concert, I've run these over the past 4 years:
1. Totally stock (didn't last more than one track weekend)
2. Stock with 19mm H&R rear swaybar
3. H&R's with 19mm H&R rear swaybar
4. H&R's with Bilstein SP's and with 19mm H&R rear swaybar (awesome setup, btw, won two autocross class championships with this setup)
5. H&R's with Bilstein SP's, 19mm H&R rear swaybar, camber plates and rear camber kit (even better!)
6. H&R's with Bilstein SP's, 19mm H&R rear swaybar, camber plates and rear camber kit, adjustable swaybar endlinks (we're getting warmer!)
7. Leda 24-way adjustable coilovers with a LOT of different springs and valving setups (when testing, to get them dialed in), camber plates and rear camber kit - oh, and the 19mm H&R rear swaybar
(consider this to be the best setup to date, even for my daily driver)
As you can see, most of the time was spent tweaking the Bilstein/H&R setup, with the last year being spent on the Softcore TSW/Leda setup.
Our other car pretty much started on Ledas and stayed on Ledas (approx. 3 years) - although a more track oriented setup than the one on the other car...
1. Totally stock (didn't last more than one track weekend)
2. Stock with 19mm H&R rear swaybar
3. H&R's with 19mm H&R rear swaybar
4. H&R's with Bilstein SP's and with 19mm H&R rear swaybar (awesome setup, btw, won two autocross class championships with this setup)
5. H&R's with Bilstein SP's, 19mm H&R rear swaybar, camber plates and rear camber kit (even better!)
6. H&R's with Bilstein SP's, 19mm H&R rear swaybar, camber plates and rear camber kit, adjustable swaybar endlinks (we're getting warmer!)
7. Leda 24-way adjustable coilovers with a LOT of different springs and valving setups (when testing, to get them dialed in), camber plates and rear camber kit - oh, and the 19mm H&R rear swaybar
(consider this to be the best setup to date, even for my daily driver)As you can see, most of the time was spent tweaking the Bilstein/H&R setup, with the last year being spent on the Softcore TSW/Leda setup.
Our other car pretty much started on Ledas and stayed on Ledas (approx. 3 years) - although a more track oriented setup than the one on the other car...
Last edited by txwerks; Jan 30, 2007 at 12:19 PM.
I kinda like my APEX springs. Not much difference in ride quality from stock, but they sure helped with body lean.
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Ah. Mine's going in in a couple weeks, so I may beat you to the punch.
Strictly daily driver with occasional spirited driving on poker rallies, mountains, etc.
1. OEM "sport" package
2. Dumped the runflats and S-heavies = significant improvements in performance across the board tendendy to "follow the grooves" pretty much disappears
3. Added Alta 19mm rr sway at "stiff" = better turn-in, less roll, as promised
4. Added Koni FSDs = MUCH better ride and as-good or better handling. Friends who ride along comment on how flat the car corners. I notice that and how responsive it is.
I really like the feel now, but I am tempted to try the Tx. SpeedWerks springs and IE adjustable plates for evened out -1.5 to -2 in the front and a slightly (.5"? or so) lower stance.
Hoping to see and maybe ride in a like-modded car at AMVIV.
Anyone got the TSW/IE/FSD thing going on who is going to be there and willing to let me ride please PM me? Thanks.
1. OEM "sport" package
2. Dumped the runflats and S-heavies = significant improvements in performance across the board tendendy to "follow the grooves" pretty much disappears
3. Added Alta 19mm rr sway at "stiff" = better turn-in, less roll, as promised
4. Added Koni FSDs = MUCH better ride and as-good or better handling. Friends who ride along comment on how flat the car corners. I notice that and how responsive it is.
I really like the feel now, but I am tempted to try the Tx. SpeedWerks springs and IE adjustable plates for evened out -1.5 to -2 in the front and a slightly (.5"? or so) lower stance.
Hoping to see and maybe ride in a like-modded car at AMVIV.
Anyone got the TSW/IE/FSD thing going on who is going to be there and willing to let me ride please PM me? Thanks.
Stock for 4 months
Stock with 22mm RSB and summer tires (Azenis on 7.5" wheels) - 1 month
SPAX with P&D camber plates, RSB and tires - 3 months
SPAX with P&D plates, RSB, tires and H-Sport rear links (4) - 3 months
SPAX with K-mac plates, RSB, tires, H-Sport links - 14 months
PSS9 with K-mac plates, RSB, tires, H-Sport links - 10 months
PSS9 with K-mac plates, RSB, H-Sport links and Avon summer and Avon and Yokohama R compounds - 16 months
PSS9 with Hypercoil front springs, H-Sport camber plates, RSB, H-Sport links with snow tires - 3 months
Coming soon - PSS9 with Hypercoil/H&R 2.5" springs, H-sport plates, RSB, H-Sport links with summer and R compound tires.
Scott
90SM
Stock with 22mm RSB and summer tires (Azenis on 7.5" wheels) - 1 month
SPAX with P&D camber plates, RSB and tires - 3 months
SPAX with P&D plates, RSB, tires and H-Sport rear links (4) - 3 months
SPAX with K-mac plates, RSB, tires, H-Sport links - 14 months
PSS9 with K-mac plates, RSB, tires, H-Sport links - 10 months
PSS9 with K-mac plates, RSB, H-Sport links and Avon summer and Avon and Yokohama R compounds - 16 months
PSS9 with Hypercoil front springs, H-Sport camber plates, RSB, H-Sport links with snow tires - 3 months
Coming soon - PSS9 with Hypercoil/H&R 2.5" springs, H-sport plates, RSB, H-Sport links with summer and R compound tires.
Scott
90SM
Stock Cooper front swaybar (the small one)
RDR 22.5mm rear swaybar (currently on middle setting)
JCW suspension upgrade springs and struts
Helix camber plates (-2.0° / zero toe)
Works pretty well as a daily driver / winter car in Vermont snow / autocross / track day car. Not the best for any of those, but seems to be a great compromise considering all the things I need my car to be capable of.
I'm very pleased with the track abilities of the car considering I can still drive it on the bad pavement of Vermont back roads and through the snow in the winter.
RDR 22.5mm rear swaybar (currently on middle setting)
JCW suspension upgrade springs and struts
Helix camber plates (-2.0° / zero toe)
Works pretty well as a daily driver / winter car in Vermont snow / autocross / track day car. Not the best for any of those, but seems to be a great compromise considering all the things I need my car to be capable of.
I'm very pleased with the track abilities of the car considering I can still drive it on the bad pavement of Vermont back roads and through the snow in the winter.
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