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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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This looks great. You had mentioned before that hypercoil springs would be available, correct? What rates will work with this coil-over set up?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
Unlike the front, the rear control arms have a fixed bolt thru mounting point on the bottom. There is no easy way to lower the bottom of the shock as there is in the front.

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Other companies have done it. It's just nice to have as much adjustability as possible.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
Other companies have done it. It's just nice to have as much adjustability as possible.
They have been able to lower the bottom mounting point of the shock ? Could you post a link please ?

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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
Other companies have done it. It's just nice to have as much adjustability as possible.
Like this (the rears are on the right)?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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We are trying to get as much value as we can while keeping them in an affordable range. We can look into that and see how it would affect the price . Thanks for the info.

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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
We are trying to get as much value as we can while keeping them in an affordable range. We can look into that and see how it would affect the price . Thanks for the info.

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Thanks! I think the small extra cost would be well worth it.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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What do you think Randy? Do you see value in that sort of adjustability for the rears?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kurvhugr
What do you think Randy? Do you see value in that sort of adjustability for the rears?
I don't see the point in having them on the front and not having them on the rear. Wouldn't the ideal set up be to run the correct weight springs at zero preload the use the independent adjuster to adjust the ride height?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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Randy/Peter - do these come with progressive or linear springs? I think some of the on-track handling issues people have with the PSS9s might be caused by the progressive springs...

Thoughts?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Strom
Randy/Peter - do these come with progressive or linear springs? I think some of the on-track handling issues people have might be caused by the progressive springs...

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I think all coilovers come with linear springs.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 02:19 AM
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The Bilstein PSS9s have progressive in front.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by maxmini
Let me see what i can find.

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Here is the leda after removal. I have the spring off it as i was testing it to see if i could push it in with my hand , always a bad sign. I could (:


Looks like this one needs some attention.




This the rear m7 shock.
This is a distortion of Leda dampers build quality. Any damper can fail and what is noteworthy is that this style damper with the emulsified gas was recalled/rebuilt/replaced with no charge long ago because they came with a bad seal. How and why this one was still on a car I do not know. Additionally, Leda does not use the same gas/oil combination in the body anymore and there have been no reports of any issues with the dampers that have been sold since.
Furthermore, the Ledas use 2 1/4" springs rather than barrel style which allows for up to 4 degrees of negative camber. This and the fact that they are completely customizable is what set them apart from all other manufactures for the Mini.
M7 knows all of this and why they choose to disparage Leda is unknown to me. Not only do I sell Ledas I do so because for the money they are the best solution I have found for improved handling both on the street and track.
 

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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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as long as your not using the same manufacturer as megan i think you got yourself a winner here.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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as long as your not using the same manufacturer as megan i think you got yourself a winner here.
yep. big time!
 
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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yep. big time!
Same manu

Not in a million years.

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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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:D i know.

Can't wait to hear about your coilovers. Bypassing the springs. However, being 19yo, saving for $2k odd coilovers isn't a quick affair.

Any news on the spring rates of both the stock road coils and hypercoils peter?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by defylogik
as long as your not using the same manufacturer as megan i think you got yourself a winner here.
I don't think the manufacturer is the problem, I think the coilovers are of good quaility. I don't think Megan has had them made to the right specs for the Mini, and that could be both Megan and Pilo Racings fault.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
I don't think the manufacturer is the problem, I think the coilovers are of good quaility. I don't think Megan has had them made to the right specs for the Mini, and that could be both Megan and Pilo Racings falt.

i agree 100%.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Randy/Peter - Any word on whether these have linear or progressive springs?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Hey Guys....

As I stated earlier, we will have all the answers soon. The reason for
the vaugeness is that we are testing different setups of springs, valving etc.

We like to offer "you" the consumer the best product possible with no issues and part of that is "Beta" testing.

I promisse to have something very soon.....

Ps. Feel free to call with additional questions or wishes.

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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Sounds good - didn't mean to be a pest.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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By far the worst experience I've had modding my MINI was due to Ledas. They have gotten their share of bad press, and for good reason - chronic, repeated failure.

Those who have speak negatively of them, including the folks at M7 were once fans also, like me. When the reality sets-in that another rebuild is necessary, and the corresponding work and down-time needed - it sucks!

Just found this thread, nearly 2 years ago:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...highlight=leda

Bottoming-out and bump-stopping nightmare... One time I received one for which the valve control did nothing whatsoever. Another time one had what many felt here to be undesirable "stiction"... The quality control, from my experience, and others was/is inadequate. And the fact that these things rupture after only a few thousand miles is just ridiculous. I can't tell you the number of PM's I got telling me not to go Ledas when I was contemplating... yet I did, and I totally regret that decision.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by M7
Hey Guys....

As I stated earlier, we will have all the answers soon. The reason for
the vaugeness is that we are testing different setups of springs, valving etc.

We like to offer "you" the consumer the best product possible with no issues and part of that is "Beta" testing.

I promisse to have something very soon.....

Ps. Feel free to call with additional questions or wishes.

Peter
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Rough ETA to the consumer? I really don't know how long these things take. Are we talking 2 months, 6 months, 1 year?

What about front camber plates like the Megans? How about pillow ball upper mounts front and rear?

If you can offer a reliable set of coilovers that have all the features of the Megans, without the problems of the Megans, in the $1500 to $1750 price range, you are going to have a product that you won't be able to supply to the consumer fast enough. It will be a big hit!

Thanks Peter!
 
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyB
By far the worst experience I've had modding my MINI was due to Ledas. They have gotten their share of bad press, and for good reason - chronic, repeated failure.

Those who have speak negatively of them, including the folks at M7 were once fans also, like me. When the reality sets-in that another rebuild is necessary, and the corresponding work and down-time needed - it sucks!

Just found this thread, nearly 2 years ago:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...highlight=leda

Bottoming-out and bump-stopping nightmare... One time I received one for which the valve control did nothing whatsoever. Another time one had what many felt here to be undesirable "stiction"... The quality control, from my experience, and others was/is inadequate. And the fact that these things rupture after only a few thousand miles is just ridiculous. I can't tell you the number of PM's I got telling me not to go Ledas when I was contemplating... yet I did, and I totally regret that decision.
Are you referencing the emulsified gas dampers that had a bad valve? That was discovered and rectified long ago as both you and M7 know.

--Bump stop? What makes them the best damper available is that you can choose the valving and spring rate. Whoever made the decision on yours made a mistake.
--Quality control? They are hand build and mistakes can happen. If you are referencing the 2 year old post you are seeing posts by only a couple of people and they failed to mention what the damper was filled with.
--Rupture after a few thousand miles. What? Ledas are utilized trouble-free by a myriad of cars both on the street and track all over the globe.

Being accurate concerning Ledas (or any product for that matter) would be more beneficial to the NAM community.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 05:30 AM
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what size monotube? 50mm?
 
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