Assuming you mean the Eibach coilovers, I haven't seen rates anywhere. I have a larger version of that pic where you can read the numbers on the springs but the #s on the fronts are just the part number for the kit and the #s on the rears make no sense to me at all.

 

The Eibach and KW are using progressive front springs.

 

Sorry but neither the Eibach nor the KW front springs look progressive to me. In fact, I think I remember KWs with tender or helper springs.

 

I'll take part of that back. I've seen KWs with progressive front springs and KWs with linear front springs, depending on the version.

 

Some of Eibach's basic kits come with progressive rate springs. But you can always change these out for something else.

 

KW and many European coilover manufacturers changed their street spring designs around 2001 to enable for a longer stroke.

Only their race versions come with lineair springs (and sometimes helper springs), since most tracks are relatively flat

 

This thread sort of died out - is there any further news on the subject? As a couple other folks have menetioned, it does seem the entire strut body could be lengthened, as the strut stops about 1" above the bottom of the strut knuckle on the front axle.

 

I'm still dumbfounded by this whole controversy...I've had my set of Megans, lowered, cornered balanced for over a year and couldn't be happier...Plenty of travel, supple ride, never bottomed out in valleys, near air launches over crests and extremely hard cornering transitions in both directions...could there have been a bad batch of struts that were circulated?

 

word still no problems here and i'm close to no threads on the coilovers..slammed. Even faired well in the ohio winter with the potholes etc

 

Wow.. who brought this back? RallyMini and MSFITOY, don't you guys both have like 15" wheels?

 

NOpe...spokeless 17" TDR

 

"There was no doubt about it.. MSFITOY was 'The *****'."

 

I've run 15s and 16s....my 15s have very low profile tires as well which should theoretically be worse? i think

I'm pretty sure wheel choice isnt the difference here though....nor is ride height

But I'm not complaining

 

like the great phoenix, this thread has risen up out of the ashes of NAM lol

 

What do you mean "was"?

 

MSFTITOY, so that's what my stoptechs look like to "outsiders"!

I have to admit, I have been tracking my MINI with the Megans, and I can't say I have had issues (although it is my only point of reference, so if I am, how would I know anyway...). However, I don't get a lot of suspension travel, so when I do drive on the street with it, I avoid any large bumps or holes like the plague (but then again why wouldn't you anyway).

Soooo, I thought I would raise this thing from the dead to see if any other updates or changes had happened. By the sounds of it I am guessing no.

 

Bumpstop + short travel or long dampers = contact. Bumpstop contact with top of damper = instantaneous infinite spring rate which = instantaneous slide.

The fix? Shorter bumpstops + heavier spring rate up front - from 285 to 469...but the new 469# springs are the same length as the 285# springs...heavier spring rate = bigger coils...bigger coils = less spring travel...less travel = spring bind - all else equal.

I found all these problems at the track. Steve is sending new stuff out.

 

what new stuff? are u just talking about the new bumpstops and springs/?

 

Yes.

 

Referring to post 317...

When the damper makes contact with a hard rubber bumpstop, the spring rate - which has nothing to do with spring rate but is only a comparison - becomes infinitely stiff - like no suspension at all - Flinstone style. Thusly, an immediate slide will result.

now, some systems are designed to work with bumpstops; the mini's stock suspension is a bumpstop active system in whcih the bumpstop works like a spring as it contacts the damper - by design. No slide here.

Does this clarify???

 

I'm liking the new springs so far... Only got to ride on them a few days before shipping the car off to Guam (still waiting another 2-3 weeks for it to get here)... But combined with the new tires (Pzeros over Proxes4) with more sidewall, the ride is much more comfortable.

 

Starting up an old thread, can someone take a picture of thier car's stance then also of the actual Megan coilovers with the wheels off? I need help adjusting mine because I just installed the new stiffer front springs and not too sure what's the optimal setup.

 

just kiddn...

Here's some...

 

So MSFITOY are you running the new front springs on your Megans? Do you have to take back off the entire front shock assembly to lower the damn car?

 

Nope...installed it and forgot about about it...don't know what all the fuss is about...rides great and never crashes even when I practically get airborn...