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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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Track only suspension setups

Anyone have any experience with track dedicated components from Koni, Bilstein or H&R?

If so, can you tell me what you like and what you do not?

Thanks,

Michael
 
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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What do you mean by track dedicated components?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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meb- i would consult with RandyWebb.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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I've been running the Bilstein PSS9 coilovers and they work great. Also I do drive to the races so they can be used both ways. They are supper easy to adjust ride height, have a large range to raise or lower the car. Real simple thumb wheels to adjust the shocks. They also will fit most wheels without spacers. The only downer is they are a little expensive, but for the track I think that it's worth every penny. The Koni coilovers would be my second choice. They are a little different in design but work pretty well too. I do sell both of these, so let me know if your interested or give me a call to answer any other questions.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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I will agree with Waylen on this one. The Bilsteins are the best bet for most cars, especially if you are going to be driving around town every so often, or driving the car to the event. They are not as harsh as the Ledas, but offer about the same adjustment. The Ledas are a finer adjustment range, meant mainly for track only cars. However, you can dial the car in a little better with those small increments.

If you feel like going all out, the Moton club sports are theoretically the ideal track only coilover. They have a large range of fine adjustment with remote reservoirs that remove some of the weight from the shock housing. There are a few bugs that still need to be worked out of the fitment though, so unless you feel like playing with them in order for them to fit, pick up a set of the Bilsteins or Ledas.

Along with the Coilovers, you will want both front and rear camber. The Helix plates for the front seem to be the industry standard right now. Although H-sport will soon be releasing a new set that look very promising. Pick up a set of the Helix rear camber links to dial in some rear camber.

Last but not least would be the rear swaybar. And of coarse I will be recommending the Webb Extreme rear bar. I think there are a few threads in this section devoted to it, so go and check those out. Or you can take a look at it on our website(www.webbmotorsports.com).

Other than those items, its really personal preference. Some people swear by front swaybars and strut braces, but I don’t see a need for them.

-Brian
 
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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...actually just looking around and curious. So far the Megans are working just fine for a track/commuter car. But this car may become a track only car and I feeling out opinions about Koni and Bilstein, but not the PSS9s; I want to stay with a linear rate spring.

Let me narrow my question...double adjustable Konis or Bilsteins...anyone have any experience with these on a Mini? I had a set of double adjustable Konis made for another car and they were great, but paired with 400 and 600lb/in linear rate springs front and rear. Not a commuter set-up. I'm also trying to hit a price point of around $2,500 for this setup. Moton is always a consideration, but they are pricer...my wife hates the car now, she'll burn it to the ground if I go nuts.

Brian, I already have your rear bar. Just look down to my sig and you'll see the stuff installed - except the Powergrid endlinks.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 05:24 AM
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Brian, I already have your rear bar. Just look down to my sig and you'll see the stuff installed - except the Powergrid endlinks.
Why don't you have the PowerGrid endlinks installed?
 
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Old Jul 6, 2006 | 06:25 AM
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I haven't ordered them yet. Running with stock front endlinks for now - no corner balancing yet - but they'll be installed before I bring my car to you Don.

In reality, just trying keep a low profile; my wife hates the car 'thing' and I've exceeded her limitations with regard to time and money. So, I'll have to dance on more tables at night if I'm to finish what I started .


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Why don't you have the PowerGrid endlinks installed?
 
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 04:16 AM
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Guys, I assume that meb is probably talking about something like a Koni 8216


or SP8


Or maybe he's got big bucks and wants the 2822 http://www.koniracing.com/pdf/2822.pdf

Shocks like those above are what I think of when people say track-only or whatever. I'm sure Bilstein also has it's own catalog of not-intended-for-the-street dampers.

It's a wide world out there, kids

-Roger, who has never spent "that" kind of money on shocks
 
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