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Suspension Camber plate without Caster?

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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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As does the other side rise. Allthough not in direct proportion because of the difference in toe out in turn {inner wheel having to turn a smaller circle than the outer wheel}.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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...the ackerman effect.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by meb
...the ackerman effect.
Exactly.
It was nice talking to you, but I think we have beatin this poor horse to death.
Till the next time Bye.


Sorry, I didn't mean to be as rude as it sounds after having read my last post.
It is just that this has strayed a bit & become longer than needed.
Being as I started the thread I thought I would put it out of its misery.
It truly has been good to talk to you all, thanks for the imput.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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No worries
 
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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doesn't "Ackerman " describe the effect, common to wagon wheels, that rotate about a steering axis inboard of the tread? addressed by recessed wheels and steering knuckles.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 04:11 AM
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did some reading:
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.c...=117106&page=1
 
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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John,

That's the forum I was thrown off of...still dunno why. I still visit Engineering tips, however.

Ackerman; draw a scaled circle - any scale, but large enough to depict a cars' turning radius. This circumference depicts the outer wheel's path. Now draw another circle off the same center point but scaled 6' smaller in diameter. This depicts the inside wheel's path. Ackerman attempts to have both wheels turn on the same radius to avoid scrubing, and, to ensure path accuracy. But as some of the contributors wrote (ENG-Tips), this works at slow speeds - zero or small slip angles - and, is further complicated by toe angles, caster and camber...as well as weight transfer during really hard cornering...wheel base...

By the way, I suggested to Onaslaed via the phone he purchase this book; Race Car Dynamics by Millikin Research. You can find this online for about $80.00. It is written for the enthusiast, professional racer, automotive engineers and is THE text book of choice in many institutions of higher learning. Mine is on the way. Hopefully it will help us to clear up some misunderstandings...I'm a brain fart too John.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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here is a book I use, a real tome:
Theory of Ground Vehicles by J.Y Wong
he even talks about tracked vehicles, like tanks.

brush up on your partial differential equations, heh heh.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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...partial differential...broken drive shaft???
 
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