Suspension Camber plate without Caster?
As does the other side rise. Allthough not in direct proportion because of the difference in toe out in turn {inner wheel having to turn a smaller circle than the outer wheel}.
Originally Posted by meb
...the ackerman effect.
It was nice talking to you, but I think we have beatin this poor horse to death.
Till the next time Bye.
Sorry, I didn't mean to be as rude as it sounds after having read my last post.
It is just that this has strayed a bit & become longer than needed.
Being as I started the thread I thought I would put it out of its misery.
It truly has been good to talk to you all, thanks for the imput.
John,
That's the forum I was thrown off of...still dunno why. I still visit Engineering tips, however.
Ackerman; draw a scaled circle - any scale, but large enough to depict a cars' turning radius. This circumference depicts the outer wheel's path. Now draw another circle off the same center point but scaled 6' smaller in diameter. This depicts the inside wheel's path. Ackerman attempts to have both wheels turn on the same radius to avoid scrubing, and, to ensure path accuracy. But as some of the contributors wrote (ENG-Tips), this works at slow speeds - zero or small slip angles - and, is further complicated by toe angles, caster and camber...as well as weight transfer during really hard cornering...wheel base...
By the way, I suggested to Onaslaed via the phone he purchase this book; Race Car Dynamics by Millikin Research. You can find this online for about $80.00. It is written for the enthusiast, professional racer, automotive engineers and is THE text book of choice in many institutions of higher learning. Mine is on the way. Hopefully it will help us to clear up some misunderstandings...I'm a brain fart too John.
That's the forum I was thrown off of...still dunno why. I still visit Engineering tips, however.
Ackerman; draw a scaled circle - any scale, but large enough to depict a cars' turning radius. This circumference depicts the outer wheel's path. Now draw another circle off the same center point but scaled 6' smaller in diameter. This depicts the inside wheel's path. Ackerman attempts to have both wheels turn on the same radius to avoid scrubing, and, to ensure path accuracy. But as some of the contributors wrote (ENG-Tips), this works at slow speeds - zero or small slip angles - and, is further complicated by toe angles, caster and camber...as well as weight transfer during really hard cornering...wheel base...
By the way, I suggested to Onaslaed via the phone he purchase this book; Race Car Dynamics by Millikin Research. You can find this online for about $80.00. It is written for the enthusiast, professional racer, automotive engineers and is THE text book of choice in many institutions of higher learning. Mine is on the way. Hopefully it will help us to clear up some misunderstandings...I'm a brain fart too John.
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