It looks like my second set of HSport camber plates are going down the crapper. Just like with the first set, I'm starting to get a clunk when I turn the wheel. Last time, when the plates were removed, I was told that the bearing cassettes were so rusty, "they look like they were underwater for a year".

Needless to say, I'm not going to put HSports back in for a third time. What is a good option for price/durability/function?

Thanks,
V3

 

RDR/Helix

 

Or ireland engineering

https://secure3.nexternal.com/shared...products%2Easp

 

I have RDR's and I am happy with them. I got mine used for $350. Just watch the marketplace.

 

i use the webb ones. my first set were K-mac. they offer no repeatablity. i'd stick with the webb design. they are similar the the ground control ones.

 

I have the Ireland Street&track adjustable. So far, no problems.

 

I'm extremely happy with my Ireland Street/Race plates...

 

Helix/RDR seem to be the best i have seen sofar.

 

I have to agree, they are very well built, very well thought out and easy to adjust. They also look cleaner than any other camber plate I have seen for the mini. I have seen a bunch and most are a little difficult to adjust or they are just plain ugly. The rdr's look like they are factory and they are strong !

 

Thanks for the ideas, fellers.

 

Question: Do all of these camber plates RAISE the front ride height of the car (assuming you don't have adjustable spring perches)?

If so, should they only be used with coilovers and other ride-height adjustable shocks, or is it still appropriate to use them with simple lowering springs and performance shocks?

I would love to get some Bilstein PSS9 coilovers and a nice set of camber plates, corner-weight balance the car, then have a sweet performance alignment done. I am sure that would transform the handling of this car. But that's a bunch-a-dough just to "do it properly", and really there is no point until I get off these runflats....
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The webbs raise the car, and the irelands lower it 1/8 inch. I dont know about the RDR/Helix setup

 

This is the setup I have and its great. As far as I know the rdr's DO NOT raise the car I had springs/konis first and then the pss9's and they didnt raise my car.

 

my 2 cents worth - Probably most folks with camber plates also have coil overs- I have h sport springs & koni yellows.

I've have Webb camber plates (made by Perfect Power) for about a year. They need some minor work to make them perform correctly with my set up. Most folks here have the Helix/RDR. (i'm not sure if you can easily adjust stocks like the Koni yellow with the Helix plates)

The Webb camber plates have broken 4 of my stock top spring perchs (which are used with the H-sport springs) The hole in the middle of the spring perch rips & the hole enlarges & top of perch gets distored. This happened with the stock shocks and with Koni yellows both with H sport springs.
If your set up requires using the stock spring perch, you'll need to keep and use the large stock washer that is used with the stock plates so the load is spread out on the upper spring perch. The instructions say not to use any of the stock parts. However if you don't use the large washer, the camber plate bushings are only about 1/16" larger than the hole in the spring perch and just rip and punch the perch out. When you do use the stock large washer re-assembly then becomes more difficult because the washer reduces the amount of thread left showing on the shock rod. I had to get the two bushings machined to reduce their height- all seems fine now.
Also on the webb plates-- the 3 bolts that come up thru the plates and run thru the 3 holes in the shock tower aren't secured to the camber plate- they turn when trying to get the strut assembly out. This makes removing the strut assembly more difficult than it should be requiring loosening the crow foot nuts and moving the camber so you can put an allen head wrench to hold the bolt. I also fixed this by threading the plate so the bolts are attached and don't move.
Long way to say get the Helix/rdr

 

Great info Guys - thanx.

BTW - Pilo Racing's website has a detailed description of the features of the RDR's that really make them sound like a MINI's best friend. They even offer a 'Koni adjustment tool' that allows you to adjust the Konis through the slots in the RDR plates.

Pilo also sells the PSS9's... which brings up an interesting question...

I wonder how Pilo's own, recently-introduced coilovers WITH built-in camber plates would stack up against a PSS9/RDR combo, especially at less then HALF the price... hmmm...
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What do you think about those Megan Racing coilovers with included camber plates? I'm probably buying them next.

 

....since they are so 'new' yet!?

 

What about the K-MAC front camber plates?
Dun seem to hear much about them, anyone who have them on yet?
How about some comment and advise?

 

" close out " on moss MINI of these K-mac plates, ithink!!
........hmmm i wonder why????
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my first set of plates were Kmac's. they do not offer repeatability. if you have a dedicated track car have at it. it you change your camber before and after track the K-macs really need to go to the alignment shop to be set in either position. i would vote no on them. my old ones are in a box on the back deck, make me an offer.

 

well, i did a bit of searching and turns out the K-MACs are made in Australia?
Guess the logistical supply of these items could have be the reason for the close out..
but for the time they were offered, i was sure someone here would have taken the jump and bought/installed them.
Understanding there a number of US MINI tuners producing their own camber plates, definitely makes most sense to buy local then; RDR_Helix/Ireland Eng/Webb quite a spread already i suppose.

 

thanks for the tip

I do not do any track time, so changing settings from street-track-street isnt gonna happen often or at all.

just wondering other than the ease of repeatability as compared to say RDR/Ireland/Webb camber plates, are there any other "cons" of using the K-MACs based on your past experience with them?

 

if i remember right that kit seemed like it would wear out quickly due to construction/material but im not fer sure!!

 

curious about the "repeatability" which I assume means accurate return to a previous setting, post setting/changing camber for the track. Is it a click set up, or does one lift the front wheels up and loosen top strut bolts, adjust by hand?? or what ....

I had kmacs on my e30 bmw, and they worked but required alignment post any adjustment...

also, has Webb Motorsports commented on above mentioned concerns with their camber plates.. I heard only good things about Webb... but wonder about problems/quality with this product of theirs?

 

Ireland engineering fixed plates are on the way...

K-Mac is indeed manufactured in Australia. Problem with their kits is they are designed for many applications and do not necessarily fit every manufacturing nuance - personal experience. That written, they are difficult to adjust, but typicall posses incredible range.