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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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lets see roll bar/cage

ok anyone have links to who makes roll bar/cage's i would like to see everything out their,who on here's got one how do you like it ect??thanks


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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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autopower industries has one for the mini... search it on google and you will find it.. i believe ESE carries it
 
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Here are some shots of ours - this one obviously fabricated here in the shop. We do cages like this for customers, but they aren't cheap. We also sell a bolt in - SCCA legal or just the basic hoop.

Things to take notice of - the halo that fits between the clock and mirror, the main hoop between the two sunroofs, the door bars that go into the OEM door pockets, and the cut-off switch mounting plate right on the pax window area.

Hope that helps!
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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Nice cage, looks like something out of NASCAR.

So, why did you leave the headliner in after tearing just about everything else out?
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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Here's a photo album that belongs to one of the guys on my team....has a few pics of his new bar. Its autopower

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2121744068

And another team member's autopower bar



 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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Our's isn't as cool as Randy Webb or Randy T's, but still pretty nifty (IMHO).
 

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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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Here's a photo album that belongs to one of the guys on my team....has a few pics of his new bar. Its autopower

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2121744068

And another team member's autopower bar



A perfect example of how NOT to run your harnesses. This is how people get really hurt, or even die in minor collisions.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Saw a link a while back. Supposedly was supposed to be a roll bar cage pick but when I clicked on the link,
I saw a tuner chick. Bikini Top, White undies peeking out under short skirt... No roll bar! No MINI!
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Is that a baby bottle between the seats? I remeber Randy M7 had nitrous bottle like that:smile:
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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Is that a baby bottle between the seats? I remeber Randy M7 had nitrous bottle like that:smile:

heheh thats Randy's car
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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A perfect example of how NOT to run your harnesses. This is how people get really hurt, or even die in minor collisions.
Which area are you referring to?

If you are talking about the use of them on the outside of the headrest poles (let alone with non-racing seats) you will see that he is using a special device created for the MINI (by a company whose name escapes me) which gives more strength to that area and places them in the correct position.

They are schroths so those connection points are used by MANY people and have been tested by schroth enough to get DOT approval. And they dont make contact with the roll bar, so i dont believe there is any problem there either.

Randy has attended many sanctioned track days and passed the inspections i assume

a quick pic of correct anchor points on schroths (found on NAM's sponsor's website www.soloracer.com)


Further reading (from same site) harness interaction with stock seats

Seat Considerations
Seat-back/head rest construction is the most critical factor in the seat construction. The head rest must be constructed to both allow the belts to pass through and to help keep the belts from going side to side.

A fully integrated headrest is not acceptable. The problem with the fully integrated headrest (far right), is that the belts can slide down the sides of the seat, and usually results in the driver sliding out of the shoulder straps under impact. A seat with no headrest, as pictured 2nd from the right, has no means of retaining the shoulder straps in the case of any sideways movement, and is also unacceptable.
His retainers keep them from sliding outwards or too far inwards, and keeps them at a maximum distance apart. So i dont think that placement should be a problem.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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i think the problem is to control crushing force onto the shoulders. if the belts went over the top of the bar and the bar were a bit higher it would be better
 

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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jlm
i think the problem is to control crushing force onto the shoulders. if the belts went over the top of the bar and the bar were a bit higher it would be better
Absolutely.
Also the X section is too close to the driver. This causes two problems, one being that the expansion joint may not have enough room to work correctly and that if his 'guides' collapse during a collision, the belts could decapitate the user.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Absolutely.
Also the X section is too close to the driver. This causes two problems, one being that the expansion joint may not have enough room to work correctly and that if his 'guides' collapse during a collision, the belts could decapitate the user.
So you believe the problem is in the schroth design not just his use? I''m curious cause i was interested in getting the schroths. They seem to be used by a lot of people, and highly reccomended from my buddies who race BMW's
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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Actually most BMWCCA chapters do not like these DOT Schroths. Some are deciding whether or not to completely not allow them, some already don't.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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Actually most BMWCCA chapters do not like these DOT Schroths. Some are deciding whether or not to completely not allow them, some already don't.
ok thanks
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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NASA will allow them for autocross, but NOT track days.

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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LeeL
Nice cage, looks like something out of NASCAR.

So, why did you leave the headliner in after tearing just about everything else out?
Eventually it'll come out - it just looks pretty. I am going through the whole car again over the winter to prep it for next year's race series.

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