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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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MINI of Sterling forum on Roadfly: http://forums1.roadfly.com/mini/foru...nter/forum.php
Lastest thread on JCW strut brace: http://forums1.roadfly.com/mini/foru...6806925-1.html
Earlier thread (price quoted): http://forums1.roadfly.com/mini/foru...6564398-1.html
 
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
$288 SHIPPED..........US only

Do you have there link?
http://forums1.roadfly.com/mini/foru...6565123-1.html

$272 ... thats 15% off. Since Classic is supposed to give us 20% of that makes it $250.

Your not going to be able to compete at $288. BTW, I think sterling usually ships free if its over $100. Depends ... some they do, some they don't
 
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Classic is supposed to give us 20% off
Amount of discount at Classic (and also Sterling) is different for each item. They are probably marking up a certain percent over dealer invoice, which does not have a fixed relation to MSRP.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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1FSTMINI, you have a PM

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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 01:26 AM
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this is very true as i have priced all them kool JCW c/f bitz & i have gotten all kinds of weird prices but have had luck at each individual parts counter w/reps and have gotten good prices on all of it but not all in the same dealer.
also not a whole lot in comparison but w/shipping it kinda kills it ( the saving's) cuz' Sterling does free shipping but not on all items //peace out
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Amount of discount at Classic (and also Sterling) is different for each item. They are probably marking up a certain percent over dealer invoice, which does not have a fixed relation to MSRP.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 04:45 AM
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Im working on my list of products and talking to Mr Ferguson ( site owner ) about the program to bring my website on here........Im still setting the site up with my IT guy so be patient. In the mean while, I MIGHT start taking orders now before the site is up so just keep up with the Pm's as im not forgetting anyone.....TY

Im also trying to get Dinan into letting us sell there products on the net. If so, I will have this to offer you guys. http://dinancars.com/MiniPrint.asp?prod=185

Alot less than the others and looks gr8. I have it on my own car and its beautiful.....Adjustable like the rest and has carbon fiber inlays.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:03 AM
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maybe its me....But those links are very confusing and it doesnt show you how to order from them. I dont see any pricing or if they charge shipping :impatient
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
http://forums1.roadfly.com/mini/foru...6565123-1.html

$272 ... thats 15% off. Since Classic is supposed to give us 20% of that makes it $250.

Your not going to be able to compete at $288. BTW, I think sterling usually ships free if its over $100. Depends ... some they do, some they don't
Not everyone is going to have the same pricing. Look at the differences in prices thru all the vendors on the same products they sell.....Some might have better pricing than other on certain products. And if you wanna get technical on pricing, 20% off $320 is $256 not $250. And you say there "supposed to" give you that much off means your not sure.......Im here telling you the real price of what i can do it for. Im making a general price plan to sell these products knowing there might be someone else out there whos cheaper ( always is ) and i cant search the net all day figuring that out. When something does come up and you find it cheaper, let me know and ill see what i can do for you guys. Im here to make you guys happy and at the same time improve my companies place in the Motorports world.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:23 AM
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So that's your business philosophy. You put your mission statement put quite frankly. For your business to be successful, you will have to MAKE it your business to know these things. People will pay a little more for the exact same thing if there's a reason to do so--such as your exchange/return policy is better, your customer service is legendary, you get or can earn free stuff or shipping, or you can get it faster...but will not, nor will ever, pay a higher price for the same thing with no other advantage. It is YOUR job to either A) be the cheapest, through your shrewd negotiations and clout with the vendor, or by operating on a tighter margin, or B) be better, and spend a little of that margin convincing (selling) the public that you are.
The onus on price research will need to be a large part of your job.

I haven't conducted business with you before so I can't vouch for how wonderful you might really be, but I'm trying to be helpful, and based on what you have had to say, I'm sorta not impressed with your strategy.



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Not everyone is going to have the same pricing. Look at the differences in prices thru all the vendors on the same products they sell.....Some might have better pricing than other on certain products. .......Im hear [sic] telling you the real price of what i can do it for. Im making a general price plan to sell these products knowing there might be someone else out there whos cheaper ( always is ) and i cant search the net all day figuring that out. When something does come up and you find it cheaper, let me know and ill see what i can do for you guys. Im here to make you guys happy and at the sametime improve my companies place in the Motorports world.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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hey, wuz^ I'm lookin' 2get a set of C/F mirror's & a abuddy of mine needs a boot latch piece as well (C/F) let me know ur best deal im kinda waiting on that BBR piece 2see what comes of it, so dont need bonnet insert right now plus theres a local guy that has this bonnet insert as well & he used my ride to fit it,( durin' pruduction) so he will be given me a good deal on it for lettin' him tool around on my mini ////peace out!!
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Not everyone is going to have the same pricing. Look at the differences in prices thru all the vendors on the same products they sell.....Some might have better pricing than other on certain products. And if you wanna get technical on pricing, 20% off $320 is $256 not $250. And you say there "supposed to" give you that much off means your not sure.......Im here telling you the real price of what i can do it for. Im making a general price plan to sell these products knowing there might be someone else out there whos cheaper ( always is ) and i cant search the net all day figuring that out. When something does come up and you find it cheaper, let me know and ill see what i can do for you guys. Im here to make you guys happy and at the same time improve my companies place in the Motorports world.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Tarzan
So that's your business philosophy. You put your mission statement put quite frankly. For your business to be successful, you will have to MAKE it your business to know these things. People will pay a little more for the exact same thing if there's a reason to do so--such as your exchange/return policy is better, your customer service is legendary, you get or can earn free stuff or shipping, or you can get it faster...but will not, nor will ever, pay a higher price for the same thing with no other advantage. It is YOUR job to either A) be the cheapest, through your shrewd negotiations and clout with the vendor, or by operating on a tighter margin, or B) be better, and spend a little of that margin convincing (selling) the public that you are.
The onus on price research will need to be a large part of your job.

I haven't conducted business with you before so I can't vouch for how wonderful you might really be, but I'm trying to be helpful, and based on what you have had to say, I'm sorta not impressed with your strategy.
This is not what we do here.....We are multi-million dollar dealership which does over 8 million dollar gross per year in parts and this is all new to us. I had an idea to start selling our items on the net to help out the community and was stating a point, not a mission statement. This is a program that im trying to get going and if it works out, it will only get bigger for us and cheaper pricing for you. Shipping will be free on most items ( side skirt etc ) and some others products will have a small s/h charge. My return poilcy is very open. If you dont like, ill take it back with no Q ( as long as there is no damage and the packaging is in tact, all you do is lose the s/h costs if any ). I say that b/c of how i was treated in the past with prior companies buying my own products and understand how frustrating it is to argue about small issues as a parts return. Customer satifaction is our goal and nothing else.

And maybe i worded what i said alil wrong and im sorry you feel the way you do.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
maybe its me....But those links are very confusing and it doesnt show you how to order from them. I dont see any pricing or if they charge shipping.
MINI of Sterling and Classic MINI seem to operate about the same way. I don't know their formal business policies and only have my impressions from online communication. They are MINI dealers and their parts department have mail order operations. They have no webpages (other than the generic one with the dealership) and do not formally post prices. You have to e-mail, call, or post on their sponsered forum to get a price. Ordering is by phone only. My impression about shipping is that you get free shipping if you order over a certain amount, but you have to pay shipping for large items. Shipping is required (you cannot pick up at the parts counter). This is a restriction imposed on them by BMW, and I believe also why they do not (not allowed to?) set up like a regular web retailer.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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I am also a dealer ( if you didnt know ) and my site is not going to look like that....I got a headache trying to figure out anything on there.....I will have the same policy that if you want the product and see it for less on our site, you must buy it from there b/c i wont honor it at the shop. I dont have a problem with free shipping on most products being there mostly small anyway ( expect for the bigger items like i mentioned , Side skirts ) b/c then i will have to charge something for the size which im sure is understandable. You guys will like what im doing as soon as i can get everything all situated. Its hard for me being im the only performance specialist here and i have other job duties that is in my everyday schedule so im trying to do this as fast as i can for everyone.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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I also wanna state that this isnt my thread nor the topic at hand so im sorry for the one who made this thread.....If you guys wanna talk more about the porducts and start of my new website, please feel free to open a new topic and inform me about it so we can talk more.....thanx guys
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by joker
hey, wuz^ I'm lookin' 2get a set of C/F mirror's & a abuddy of mine needs a boot latch piece as well (C/F)
http://forums1.roadfly.com/mini/foru...6794306-1.html

$119 both parts are 15% off
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
Not everyone is going to have the same pricing. .... there might be someone else out there whos cheaper ( always is ) and i cant search the net all day figuring that out.
First, does that mean your going to be selling Dinan parts at a discount. If so, may be interested

Second, no not everyone has the same price but I think the active readership here is pretty price savvy and know how to google or froggle to get the best price. Whats the point of using the Internet if not to get the best price?

Third, its your business, you can sell however you want at whatever price you want but you should know your competititors prices because why pay more when we can pay less elsewhere ... that makes no sense at all

good luck!
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by rkw
Shipping is required (you cannot pick up at the parts counter). This is a restriction imposed on them by BMW, and I believe also why they do not (not allowed to?) set up like a regular web retailer.
I cannot speak about Classic but I can speak about Sterling.

Prices seem pretty much 15%. Yes, there is a little bit of variance it seems to average out.

Yes, if you order the JCW TC, your going to pay shipping. I think for most stuff over $100 they ship free

"Shipping is required" That is NOT true. I was just there recently and just picked stuff up. Of course, I had to pay sales tax but thats the price of not being mail ordered.

And, despite being a MINI dealer, they will order AND discount to you other companies products ... like suspension parts, engine parts, etc.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Ok, so back on topic :smile:. The JCW strut brace is STILL not available through US dealers correct? I can get one from Canada, but has anyone been able to get one on this side of the border?
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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hey thx on that tip! U know i was at the dealer and tried to pick up that C/F set and they told me internet only for 114.oo plus shippin'. someone at the counter must not know whats going on cuz the guy that runs Roadfly was not there so must check again, but did not ask about MM menbership....
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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hey thx on that tip! whats going on cuz the guy thats runs Roadfly .
You got to talk with the roadfly guy and no one else. The rest dont know nor care

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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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:edit: ill leave it as that.

Joker....You have a pm
 
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Originally Posted by joker
hey thx on that tip! U know i was at the dealer and tried to pick up that C/F set and they told me internet only for 114.oo plus shippin'. someone at the counter must not know whats going on cuz the guy that runs Roadfly was not there so must check again, but did not ask about MM menbership....
Well the thing is and what we have to do here is .....The net price is the net price....If you come in to the dealer you wont get the same deal. The advantage of coming in the store is your getting interaction and reassurance with a parts advisor ( Q will be asked and it gets to busy in the dealership ) which it costs more money to place an order in person than it does on the net and you also get the comfort of buying it at a store front. if the price was the same when you came in , nobody would make money on anything and then it defeats the purpose of doing this all.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
The advantage of coming in the store is your getting interaction and reassurance with a parts advisor ( Q will be asked and it gets to busy in the dealership ) which it costs more money to place an order in person ...
The great thing about the Internet is that you can find most anything you want at the cheapest price. Why pay more if you don't have to. The other great thing about modern society is that you can pick up that cell phone with lots of free long distance minutes and talk to those parts guys, just like in the store ...

Why, for example, does Amazon do a booming business? Try talking to an Amazon salesman. Why has Amazon forced Barnes and Nobles and other to set up Internet storefronts???? The answer is obvious, if they dont. they go out of business.

The time where brick & mortar storefront rules is long gone and you will find that virtual storefronts rule.

In fact, when I think about this, walk-in parts is so lame. I can go to places like this ...http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partgrp.d...3&mospid=48021
get the exact part number and full list price. then call up the discount parts number and .... wow, delivered right to my door the next day.

Pretty soon, its going to be like Pizza, You dont show up with that part within 3 days, I want it free! Just Kidding!
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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O i totally agree with you.....It is getting harder n harder to do internet business.....There will always be someone cheaper than the next. Its all about customer service and a good warranty to make people happy. If another company wants to sell the same product i am for less and make nothing, more power to them.

In the same time , these companies are looking at the small picture.....They will sell the product for next to nothing and hope they do that 100 times to make something but in the time they did all this they have lost so much money in time n effort that you will see that price go up sometime down the road.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by minicoopermike
Ok, so back on topic :smile:. The JCW strut brace is STILL not available through US dealers correct? I can get one from Canada, but has anyone been able to get one on this side of the border?
As of yesterday, the JCW has not been released from distribution. There is not release day set yet for the US.

Sure looks sweet. If the rain holds off tonight, I'll get pics posted.

Vote with your dollar - either wait or buy from Canada. The bars were suppose to be released in April
 
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