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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JeffS
No, what he wrote was "completely adjustable rear with HR camber links". Pretty self-explainatory.

Besides, everyone here - especially someone with them on their car knows the shocks aren't adjustable.

that's up your *** this morning?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by stage1scott
much better then the springs with just stock shocks.
I'd certainly hope so. I have the same springs and know it rides like crap with stock shocks.

Lowering and FSD's isn't a "long term effects" issue... it's that hitting the bump stops (which you're most definitely doing) disrupts the mechanics of the shocks. Sounds like they still might be worth the money. Not at minimania prices of course
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
that's up your *** this morning?
This morning? I'm always an ***...
 
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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This morning? I'm always an ***...
yeah, but we still love you man.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
I remember reading somewhere those dampers only work on stock spring
height...is that true?
since stage1 proved using aftermarket springs can be use with the fsd's, now we need to find someone to use h-sport springs with their shorter bumpstops with fsd's. that would be a nice setup there
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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to clarify if needed

yes, i meant fully adjustable and aligned rear suspension componenets (camber links) as well as the factory adjustment fitter to 05 models, not adjustable shocks. and after another couple of days of driving, i cannot believe how good this thing feels!!
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by crazyaboutmini
since stage1 proved using aftermarket springs can be use with the fsd's, now we need to find someone to use h-sport springs with their shorter bumpstops with fsd's. that would be a nice setup there
I'm not sure exactly what has been "proven" here... Of course it was possible to bolt them on together, noone doubted that. And yes, the performance is better than stock, but that was to be expected too.

In my mind at least, the question was... are you losing a significant amount of damper performance by lowering the car (and thereby reducing shock travel too much). Still seems unanswered to me.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffS
In my mind at least, the question was... are you losing a significant amount of damper performance by lowering the car (and thereby reducing shock travel too much). Still seems unanswered to me.
Is the shock body shorter than the stock shocks?

Is everyone using a smaller bump stop (or at least cutting them by about
an inch to give the shocks longer travel)?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffS
I'm not sure exactly what has been "proven" here... Of course it was possible to bolt them on together, noone doubted that. And yes, the performance is better than stock, but that was to be expected too.

In my mind at least, the question was... are you losing a significant amount of damper performance by lowering the car (and thereby reducing shock travel too much). Still seems unanswered to me.
and i was anxiously asking that
 
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffS
I'm not sure exactly what has been "proven" here... Of course it was possible to bolt them on together, noone doubted that. And yes, the performance is better than stock, but that was to be expected too.

In my mind at least, the question was... are you losing a significant amount of damper performance by lowering the car (and thereby reducing shock travel too much). Still seems unanswered to me.
and i was anxiously asking that, we need another guinee pig
 
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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hows the fsd's working out stage1scott? have you worked the car yet with impressive results?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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I know this question has been asked before but it seems the replies and results are all over the place.

I'm looking for new set of dampers.

I'm interested in either the KONI yellow or the FSD.

Currently I'm running H-sports.

It's recommended that the FSD's be only used with standard springs due to restricted travel in the rear. (however shorter bump stops may solve this....Or is this urban legend?)

So:

How much does the H-sport lower the car (average). Seems to me it was about 20 to 25mm. Is this too much for FSD operation with standard bump stops and does H-sport Bump stops help?

I'm not going back to standard springs. I like my current ride height. So not an option.

If FSD is out, how does the Yellow ride. It would have to better than the current set up I have now (Standard Delphi dampers with H-sports). To be honest, it actually has not been that bad...I got rid of the run flats long ago. Running 215/35/18's currently.

Legend has it that some have lowered spring with their FSD's and have had success. I thought it was H-sports but I could be wrong.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-C
 
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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Hello CXRK

We have a 05 S, running on Koni yellows and Koni shocks.

We had the option to go with the FSD, (wich is a wonderful shock),
but we choose the yellows because we wanted to lower the car a bit, and we do a little driving on the track.

The yellows being adjustable, we can have a set up for the street (a little softer) and a set up for our track.

We only change the adjustment on the front, very easy,
we have over 2000 miles on this set up, and we are really pleased.

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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by erik99
I'd also like to see how the FSD's do with lowering springs. The Mini Mania site says "for use with factory springs", or am I reading this wrong?Who will be the guinea pig here?
>> Well I guess am the Guinea Pig. Had FSD's installed on Monday 4-3-06 and so far they are working fine. They were mounted with H-Sport Springs. I spoke with 3 different Vinders about the FSD's and all said that they will work OK on a MINI with lowering springs as long as it is not more than 1" lower.

>> MINIMAX 1
 
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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just curious,

how much did the H sport lowered your car?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mini Works
just curious,

how much did the H sport lowered your car?

>> No more than 1" front and rear. I think they are acturaly a little less than 1".

>> I have not been able to put more than about 100 miles on them yet but did run them through some tweesty and bumpie road conditions and they preformed fine.


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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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One point on the FSDs...

They are really mis named. The dual valving has a soft valving that closes after a bit of travel. They would be better described as "Amplitude Selective Dampening" but that doesn't sound nearly as cool.

FWIW!

Matt
 
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