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Old Sep 7, 2023 | 10:31 AM
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Track oriented R53

I currently have KW V2’s on my R53, my ride is gutted and has a roll bar installed. I’m wanting a more track oriented set up. Are the KW Clubsport the better choice, or should I look at another brand?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2023 | 10:37 AM
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What are you hoping to improve? What do you not like about your current set up on the track?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2023 | 11:57 AM
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Honestly they are really good for street driving, but figured since I want to have some track days I might want to upgrade. My mini is transforming right now, pulled the old stock motor with a RMW dominator cam and tvs900. An RMW 1.8 stroker with a billet crank, 1000cc injectors, Link ECU and 7” dash display, E85 kit, oil cooler, and 53mm sc pulley, Giken twin plate clutch, Giken LSD, and swapping out the Milltek header from the RMW shorty to match the ported exhaust ports.


 
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Old Sep 13, 2023 | 12:19 PM
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Quite a Project. . .

JK, you are definitely going to enjoy the powertrain you have assembled! (I have a similar RMW configuration, minus the E85.)

On your suspension: It's not clear if you still expect your project to be a street car, or almost exclusively track, but that mainly gets into spring selection since you are already on coilovers.

For serious track work, KW's pre-packaged Clubsport offers independent high speed/velocity bump adjustment that the V2 does not. (Both have low speed adjustability.) The softer end of the Clubsport settings will also work for you on the street. KW does not specify spring rates for their V2 & Clubsport packages (that I have seen), which means you don't know where you’re starting.

You might consider buying a KW package from Greene Performance where Colin will have measured the KW spring rates and can discuss your application, and can custom tune them if neeeded. Alternative: Colin also offers his own double-adjustable coilover package that is based on custom BC Racing bodies, with or without his adjustable camber plates. The standard spring rates in that package are 7kg front & 8kg rear, which is a great starting point for a serious track car. You might want to dial that back a bit to maybe 6-6.5kg/mm front & rear for a more streetable track car, but talk to him, as he can swap springs or adjust valving (if required) before shipping.
(For comparison, the popular Swift springs for struts are 5kg front & 5.5kg rear. Mini's "Cup series" coilover springs are 6kg.)

6kg/mm=336lb/in
7kg/mm=392lb/in
8kg/mm=448lb/in (for those of us who think in "pounds"

I don't see it in your post or pics, but an X-Brace is an excellent way to tie the lower front suspension mounting points together & stiffen. X-brace was originally designed by TSW (Texas Speedwerks), and now sold by Way Motor Works. (Most of the cornering force & leverage is on the lower suspension mounts, not the top of the strut.)
 

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Old Nov 1, 2024 | 02:51 PM
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The KW Clubsports are for sure a more track oriented setup with higher spring rates and not bad.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/kw-clu...r50-52-53.html

But I would say the Ohlins with Vorshlag camber plates would be a better setup and better value. The Ohlins are really great and have stiffer spring setup, but also the adjustment on them in the rear is at the bottom of the body so you don't have to remove them to adjust.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/ohlins...r50-52-53.html
 
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Old Nov 1, 2024 | 07:38 PM
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The Ohlins ($600 for each strut) are more than twice the spring rate of factory coils. You might also want to order a kidney belt for daily use.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2024 | 09:32 AM
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ooooh you went for power before suspension been there.

I think you can definitely use the KW coilovers for HPDE events etc. I use the KW V2 and V3 TSW specs on my Minis and they handle what I throw at it. yeah you can put in another 5k+ for some awesome nitrons but just run what you have and learn what you like. suspension is key with the mini, find the camber you need, the rake you like and see how much oversteer you like.

on my dedicated track car I have KW v3's with green performance camber/caster plates, powerflex black LCAB, 22MM rear sway bar, r56 trailing arms with spherical bearings and the car is corner balanced.

below is a video of the car on track


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Old Nov 24, 2024 | 01:45 PM
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Hey All,
Reading through all of the comments.
Has anyone run the ST XTA coilover package yet?
 
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