Suspension Springs, struts, coilovers, sway-bars, camber plates, and all other modifications to suspension components for Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs.

Suspension R53 with Koni FSDs (Pictures Requested)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 13, 2018 | 12:31 PM
  #1  
azamjunejo's Avatar
azamjunejo
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 1
R53 with Koni FSDs (Pictures Requested)

Hi guys,

After all the rave reviews (and my current busted suspension), I’m thinking of upgrading to the Koni FSDs. The one thing I’m hesitant of is that the height of my car will increase. Searching around, I’ve only found a couple of pictures showing R53s with Koni FSDs installed. I was hoping some of you with the same set-up would share side profile pictures showing the height. Thanks in advance!
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2018 | 01:05 PM
  #2  
Subw00er's Avatar
Subw00er
5th Gear
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 616
Likes: 40
From: Upstate NY
You have to use OEM springs with the FSD/SAS shocks. The height of the car shouldn't increase or decrease if you are not changing springs. Springs define the height, the shocks just control the dampening rate.
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2018 | 03:37 PM
  #3  
azamjunejo's Avatar
azamjunejo
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Subw00er
You have to use OEM springs with the FSD/SAS shocks. The height of the car shouldn't increase or decrease if you are not changing springs. Springs define the height, the shocks just control the dampening rate.
Completely understand that, but many have commented that the FSDs increase the overall height over the OEM struts.
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2018 | 04:36 PM
  #4  
Fly'n Brick's Avatar
Fly'n Brick
6th Gear
15 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,963
Likes: 393
From: In the here and now, for now.

I put them on about 5 years ago, R52 not much different than the 53, with no change whatsoever and wouldn't have it any other way. I'm getting a slight hint that your's may be lowered? If so, you need the yellows and not the FSD. Also, while you have it jacked up would be a good time to add a stiffer adjustable RSB either 19 or 22 MM. You won't believe the difference in handling. This is a 3 year old shot of our little guy somewhere on "The Loneliest Highway" so you can see there's no height difference..
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2018 | 05:49 PM
  #5  
azamjunejo's Avatar
azamjunejo
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Fly'n Brick
I put them on about 5 years ago, R52 not much different than the 53, with no change whatsoever and wouldn't have it any other way. I'm getting a slight hint that your's may be lowered? If so, you need the yellows and not the FSD. Also, while you have it jacked up would be a good time to add a stiffer adjustable RSB either 19 or 22 MM. You won't believe the difference in handling. This is a 3 year old shot of our little guy somewhere on "The Loneliest Highway" so you can see there's no height difference..
Thanks for the pic! I currently have a stock set-up and am happy with the look and ride. From some the old conversations I read, I thought there might be some huge gap between the top of tire and fender.

Did you change your springs?
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2018 | 06:14 PM
  #6  
Racingguy04's Avatar
Racingguy04
5th Gear
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 938
Likes: 127
I've had FSD's with stock springs for a couple of years and I haven't noticed any difference in ride height.
 
Reply
Old Aug 13, 2018 | 07:18 PM
  #7  
Fly'n Brick's Avatar
Fly'n Brick
6th Gear
15 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,963
Likes: 393
From: In the here and now, for now.
Originally Posted by azamjunejo


Thanks for the pic! I currently have a stock set-up and am happy with the look and ride. From some the old conversations I read, I thought there might be some huge gap between the top of tire and fender.

Did you change your springs?
Negative. Everything on the suspension is OEM except for the dampers and RSB.
You will greatly appreciate the difference in handling with the FSD and RSB upgrade.
 

Last edited by Fly'n Brick; Aug 13, 2018 at 07:25 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2018 | 05:20 AM
  #8  
MrBlah's Avatar
MrBlah
6th Gear - AX Champion
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,301
Likes: 300
From: Pittsboro NC
if someone said the fsd changes ride height, they were wrong, shocks do not change ride height, springs do
 
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2018 | 05:50 AM
  #9  
Subw00er's Avatar
Subw00er
5th Gear
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 616
Likes: 40
From: Upstate NY
R52 may sit a little different than a r53; r52 use different springs due to the added weight on the rear end.
 
Reply
Old Aug 14, 2018 | 07:11 AM
  #10  
MINI33342's Avatar
MINI33342
5th Gear
iTrader: (-1)
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 865
Likes: 37
Dampers absolutely can raise the ride height. Most performance dampers are gas charged. They come with the shafts held in place for shipping and as soon as you remove the straps the dampers will extend to full length. As to the amount of difference, very little.
 
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2018 | 02:51 AM
  #11  
WayMotorWorks's Avatar
WayMotorWorks
Vendor
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (10)
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,621
Likes: 802
From: Atlanta, GA
Originally Posted by azamjunejo


Completely understand that, but many have commented that the FSDs increase the overall height over the OEM struts.
I think the reason for this is because people replace worn out parts and the car returns to it's original ride height. We install FSDs all the time and notice that high mileage cars that were all worn out do tend to stand back up. But not ever seen FSDs increase the ride height over stock.
We have FSDs in stock too
https://www.waymotorworks.com/koni-fsd-shocks.html
 
__________________

HOTCHKIS | DDM | CRAVEN | AKRAPOVIC | NM ENGINEERING | MEGAN | FORGE | OS GIKEN | POWERFLEX and more


Reply
Old Aug 15, 2018 | 09:20 AM
  #12  
MrBlah's Avatar
MrBlah
6th Gear - AX Champion
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,301
Likes: 300
From: Pittsboro NC
Originally Posted by MINI33342
Dampers absolutely can raise the ride height. Most performance dampers are gas charged. They come with the shafts held in place for shipping and as soon as you remove the straps the dampers will extend to full length. As to the amount of difference, very little.
gas charged yes, but not pressurized against the piston like that. I can push FSD and Yellows down with my hand
 
Reply
Old Aug 15, 2018 | 11:27 AM
  #13  
Subw00er's Avatar
Subw00er
5th Gear
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 616
Likes: 40
From: Upstate NY
yup.
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2018 | 10:01 PM
  #14  
davisflyer's Avatar
davisflyer
6th Gear
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,097
Likes: 8
From: Knoxville, TN


Stock springs and FSD's
 
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2018 | 09:27 PM
  #15  
Subw00er's Avatar
Subw00er
5th Gear
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 616
Likes: 40
From: Upstate NY
Anyone have fsd/sas with higher rate springs, but at oem ride height?
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2018 | 10:02 PM
  #16  
Timbo14's Avatar
Timbo14
1st Gear
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 40
Likes: 8
From: LaLa land

Stock "S" springs, special Actives
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2018 | 05:47 PM
  #17  
HaltCatchFire's Avatar
HaltCatchFire
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 256
Likes: 41
From: Portland, OR
Just installed. This is after a couple sessions on the track to settle them. I'd say the height went up nothing in the front and about 0.25" in the rear, and that's because my foam mounts were well worn and I replaced them as well.

 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2018 | 02:22 PM
  #18  
pnwR53S's Avatar
pnwR53S
6th Gear - NAM Hall of Fame
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,967
Likes: 393
From: soggy pnw
I try not to put foot in my mouth, but here I try. The FSD should not increase ride height. Yes, after you put the dampers in, and lower the jack the ride height might increase because of stiction and stronger damping - if you didn't slam the car down fast.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mininutz
SCCA Solo and ProSolo
4
May 24, 2007 01:26 PM
trentf
Suspension
13
Jul 22, 2006 10:01 AM
ChiliCooperS
Suspension
5
Mar 16, 2006 04:43 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:50 PM.