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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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Most drop spring?

What is the most drop springs on the market? I want 2" drop for 215/40/17 wheels set up.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MyPocketRocket
What is the most drop springs on the market? I want 2" drop for 215/40/17 wheels set up.
2" you would be slammed. I would imagine with a 2" drop you'd have some rubbing problems while cornering. Just installed the M7 springs on a friend's MCS and it gives about a 1" drop all-around (approximately, didn't measure fender height yet).

The M7 springs give it a nice low profile, with a 1-finger gap (little less in the rear), hope this helps:

 
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by twoturbos1mission
2" you would be slammed. I would imagine with a 2" drop you'd have some rubbing problems while cornering. Just installed the M7 springs on a friend's MCS and it gives about a 1" drop all-around (approximately, didn't measure fender height yet).

The M7 springs give it a nice low profile, with a 1-finger gap (little less in the rear), hope this helps:
Oh! Yes! That's what I want....sits real nice on the ground...!What are the wheels and tires size? I love those wheels too! Here is my goal--->I did this in photoshop to see where i'm going.

 
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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Thats my setup:

17" Flik/Wasp (black) & Falken/Ziex Ze-512 Bundle from www.edgeracing.com
(17x7 - 205/45R17)

sitting on m7 springs from www.eurostyleseast.com
 
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by george_ct
Thats my setup:

17" Flik/Wasp (black) & Falken/Ziex Ze-512 Bundle from www.edgeracing.com
(17x7 - 205/45R17)

sitting on m7 springs from www.eurostyleseast.com
thank you...thank you....this is the set up I need. You did a perfect job on yor car! I love it!...thanks for the setup!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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I have an approximate 2" drop from my H&R coilovers. I run stock S-lites with the 205 Pirelli runflats. I also had to go the adjustable control arm route to avoid too much camber. I am just on the limit of not rubbing in normal street driving conditions, but during spirited auto-x driving, there is some rubbing when I dial in lots of steering and lots of go pedal. Methinks that 2" of drop coupled with 215 rubber is a recipe for disaster, unless you change your control arms, and modify the wheel wells.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MGCMAN
I have an approximate 2" drop from my H&R coilovers. I run stock S-lites with the 205 Pirelli runflats. I also had to go the adjustable control arm route to avoid too much camber. I am just on the limit of not rubbing in normal street driving conditions, but during spirited auto-x driving, there is some rubbing when I dial in lots of steering and lots of go pedal. Methinks that 2" of drop coupled with 215 rubber is a recipe for disaster, unless you change your control arms, and modify the wheel wells.
Wow that's really shine me light. My idea is to get the wide tire and lowed car. Have'n thought much about rubbing issue. Since you say so I would stay away from 215.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Does M7 springs come with everything I need to install?
 
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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you'll get a box with 4 individually wrapped springs. I removed the shocks and struts myself and had a friend compress and switch the springs around. if you have a spring compressor, you could probably do it if you wanted to.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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You'll need some tools, and a spring compressor which (supposidly) you can rent from autozone, etc.

check out the writeup twoturbos1mission did. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=30575
 
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by george_ct
You'll need some tools, and a spring compressor which (supposidly) you can rent from autozone, etc.

check out the writeup twoturbos1mission did. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=30575
thanks guys for info. I thought you need to replace those bump stop rubbers. In the writeup you did not mention to replace anything, so I assume that I need nothing else beside tools.

good job on the writeup! very..very..helpful!
 
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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regarding the bumpstops, I heard someone say they cut them in half. I did not, they seem fine and I have not bottomed out yet.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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My friend and I replaced the springs on his MC and my MCS, his with Alta and mine with M7, we did not use a spring compressor for either car. There is not that much compression on the relaxed struts after you get them out of the car. Just hold the strut down on the ground on a towel, one hit with an air gun and the strut comes apart. Due to the shortened height of the new springs all it takes is a little weight on the top to compress them enough to get the nut back on. My friend weighs well under 200 lbs and couldn't push them down, but when I leaned on it, 250 lbs, it was no sweat.

We measured ride height before and after, the drop was exactly one inch on the MCS with the M7 springs.

After talking with Peter from M7 we cut the bump stops in half.

Have fun.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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What's the point of cutting the bumpstops in half? What do you get out of it?
 
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Ethereal,

That is a good question, read this info and you will get an idea of why the process is recomended.



http://e30m3performance.com/myths/travel/travel.htm
 
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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Ethereal,

That is a good question, read this info and you will get an idea of why the process is recomended.



http://e30m3performance.com/myths/travel/travel.htm
I'm not a good mechanic person, but if I cut the bumpstops I would get more spring travle and car sits lower?
 
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 08:14 AM
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The bump stop , as it's name implies, is there to keep the springs from bottoming out.


Cutting the bump stop will slightly increase suspension travel but will not lower the car. Only shorter springs will lower the car in this case.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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okie!
 
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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About springs...anyone have experience with H&R Sport or Race springs? Those seem to drop the car b/w 1.5-2.5"...
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:45 AM
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if you are hoping to go low you might want to look at coil overs from Kw or H&R. i have KW v1's on my mini from mini-madness, all coil overs are ride hieght adjustable and are worth it. the struts and springs are perfectly tested and tune for optimium performance.

chris
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 04:38 AM
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new JCW kit

doesn't the new JCW suspension kit have lowering springs? And, if so, why don't they have adjustable arms? I would like to have the lowered stance with a new rear sway but add the cost of the control arms and it pushes me out of the price range to do all at once.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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ZAKdog, just wanted to let you know that so far the insides of my all season runflats still show no extra signs of wear using the m7 springs and UUC swaybar w/o lower arms still. I take two 200 mile trips every weekend on a straight freeway too. Must be how hard we run thorugh the twisties , on the way back. take care
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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I have an 02 with the Dunlop 5000s and am a little more than halfway through the tread. I can probably make it another 9 months or so depending on how hard I push. I am getting to the conservation point where I save up my spirited sessions instead of every trip .

I would like the stability increase with the springs and swaybar but am concerned that the extra scrubbing would reduce my tread life by a year and $$$ as it is my daily driver and have other family needs for the extra cash
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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Already ordered M7 springs and FLIK WASP 17".

Too bad those wheels are out off stock.


Is it a must to do alighment after changing the springs and tires? If so what is the camber should I tell the shop to set it?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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I went with the H&R coilovers. They tell you that it's a 1.5 drop, but I have to tell you it's more like 2.5 and I love it. I'm running 18" with 215-35-18 and so far NO RUBING but the camber needs to be adjusted..... So for now I'm just going to bring it up a little. Tell me what you think.
 
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