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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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What is your suspension setup?

And how do you like it. I was pretty set on BC coilovers. But my friend Morrie is trying to talk me into Lowered springs and adjustable struts/shocks instead. I only want to lower it 1 inch. Nothing crazy on the camber and I want adjustable struts/shock and I'm ok with drilling to rears to get access to the adjusters. My '05 S is a daily driver with some canyon runs mixed in here and there. I know you can put extenders on the coilovers, but can you also put them on shocks? I was thinking Ireland fixed camber plates, but I read they are not to be used with lowering springs because it changes the camber to much. I'm not going to change anything else right now, as I'm only going an inch down. Latter, I'll get a rear bar, probably Hotchkis Comp bar and their lower arms and some drop links. But for now my top mounts are broke so I am just going to replace those, so I can drive my car. Then I'l decide what setup to go with, but I am on a budget, Like about $1700 for parts and installation.

Can someone explain how Koni Yellows work? Aren't they just rebound adjustable? Iv'e had different adjustable struts/shock on other cars and have been able to adjust them from soft to firm and visa versa. So, is that how the Yellows work?

What do you guys suggest? And thanks for your help.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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Konis are nice because the body itself is a little shirt so it helps with a drop (.5" at the MOST I think). They are rebound adjustable, but you only turn the **** on full rotation to go soft to hard. I've had koni on my other cars and liked em.

Now I have a set of coilovers I engineered and designed myself. Just need to find the time to out em on. Hate to get em dirty, they're so pretty to look at. All aluminum makes em nice and light too. I valves em to be fairly stiff as I don't daily my car, then I did a 6k spring front and rear. I can go 1" over stock ride height, or slam it through the ground. Even used a nice MCU bump stop to keep it from getting skidding as the rear transitions at full spring compression.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MCS 5
Konis are nice because the body itself is a little shirt so it helps with a drop (.5" at the MOST I think). They are rebound adjustable, but you only turn the **** on full rotation to go soft to hard. I've had koni on my other cars and liked em.

Now I have a set of coilovers I engineered and designed myself. Just need to find the time to out em on. Hate to get em dirty, they're so pretty to look at. All aluminum makes em nice and light too. I valves em to be fairly stiff as I don't daily my car, then I did a 6k spring front and rear. I can go 1" over stock ride height, or slam it through the ground. Even used a nice MCU bump stop to keep it from getting skidding as the rear transitions at full spring compression.
You need to post a picture of those.

I had Konis on a '77 Datsun 280z. They had 4 or five different clicks. I really like them. I don't know what they were called, but the were red in color.

Then I had Tokico Illumina struts on a '89 Civic HT Si and now I have a set on my '95 Civic HT Si. They are really good struts.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with BC coilovers on my Mini.
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CynMini

You need to post a picture of those.
I definitely will. I might even try and pump out a couple sets per month for other people. They certainly wouldn't be the cheapest option but the best usually isn't
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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Dinan Stage 3 for me.

I don't see the benefit in any car running full-on coilovers for the street, especially if your car doubles as your daily driver. I have a set of HotBits coilovers on my AWD DSM, and they are a PITA to adjust. I don't even drive it during the winter, and the spring perches will freeze up in place.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Carmichael
Dinan Stage 3 for me.

I don't see the benefit in any car running full-on coilovers for the street, especially if your car doubles as your daily driver. I have a set of HotBits coilovers on my AWD DSM, and they are a PITA to adjust. I don't even drive it during the winter, and the spring perches will freeze up in place.
I don't see the point of NOT having coilovers. You can adjust at any time for any given situation. I go to different tracks, so I would spring swap and alter per-load, rake, etc. granted I'm a little more hardcore...

As far as seizing up, use knife sharpening oil on the threads
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
You need to post a picture of those.

I had Konis on a '77 Datsun 280z. They had 4 or five different clicks. I really like them. I don't know what they were called, but the were red in color.

Then I had Tokico Illumina struts on a '89 Civic HT Si and now I have a set on my '95 Civic HT Si. They are really good struts.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with BC coilovers on my Mini.
damn sweet wheels. what wheels/tires spec please.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 07:44 AM
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Team Dynamic Pro Race 1, 15x7 40 ET on Yokohama S drives 205x55x15.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MCS 5
I don't see the point of NOT having coilovers. You can adjust at any time for any given situation. I go to different tracks, so I would spring swap and alter per-load, rake, etc. granted I'm a little more hardcore...

As far as seizing up, use knife sharpening oil on the threads
I don't use the MINI for track duty. Mostly autocross and street driving. The only things I can really adjust are camber, toe, caster and rebound damping with my setup, which, for my intended purposes, is plenty. My setup tends to perform better than the average Taiwanese/Chinese coilover set. Most non-MINI people are shocked I don't have anything more than a bolt-on damper and lowering spring combo plus camber plates. Dinan knows their stuff.

My dedicated track car has enough adjustability for both cars ... I will try the knife oil for my coilovers. :thumb:
 
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
Team Dynamic Pro Race 1, 15x7 40 ET on Yokohama S drives 205x55x15.
Where did you get the wheels from? Is the car lowered at all?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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I got two sets of them a long time ago, actually before I took delivery of the car. I got them from the Team Dynamics distribution center here in California.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 06:55 PM
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Live in Westlake Village here, know Morrie and Scott at Motoring Magic.

Anyways long story short, there's a reason the megan, bc, etc. chinese, taiwanese stuff is $600-$800 dollars, you pay for what you get. Nice coilovers run $2500-$3000.

My R53 is a daily driver as well, but I drive the canyons about 2-3 times a week, and I like the aggressive stiff, harsh ride.

My set-up is H-sport springs (no longer make em) with Koni Yellow adjustable shocks. Have the sway bars, camber plates, etc...

Go to Scott and have him put in some Koni FSD's for you, sounds more up your alley than some yellows. Maybe a H&R spring, would be a great set-up!

PM me if you want to know how the yellows work, got em can show you anytime.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 07:54 PM
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Oh yeah, I know Scott and Morrie. In fact I own Morries red '95 Honda Civic HB Si. You know, I haven't heard any bad things about BC coilovers. At least nothing more then any other coilover. I'm getting a set with Swift springs installed in a couple weeks by a friend in OC. He is ordering them tomorrow.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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I wouldn't like the FSDs. I want adjustability. That's how I've always had my other cars setup and that's what I prefer.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 08:01 PM
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I have KW V1s. Mild drop. Like stock only better.
 
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