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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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Springs that arent harsh?

Wanting to lower my R53 to get rid of some wheel gap.

Whats a good spring that wont ride like crap, and still looks good?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 07:37 PM
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I just had the R56 version of the TRW springs installed. I love 'em. The R53 version is here
 
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 11:53 PM
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Spring harshness will be effected by the dampers so look for someone who has a spring and damper set for the best effective review.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:58 AM
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NM springs are progressively wound and German made. Excellent choice.

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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 09:09 AM
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eiback pro kit are more geared towards a daily driver/comfort i would look into them
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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What about H&R springs for an R53?

Also the Tein S tech have a nice price point.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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I ran Bavarian auto at first, very nice ride, good stance and $100!
 
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 10:37 AM
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The lower the drop, the worse the ride. These cars have so little travel.

IMO there really aren't any good springs for the R53 anymore. Swifts are good but very firm and more of a track spring.

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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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All depends on what you consider harsh and how your roads are.

Tried multiple brands myself... best ones for comfort and performance, TSW (but they aren't available right now). Next, Tein H Tech, but they are now discontinued and also unavailable. Most others will drop an inch or more and on bad roads or major bumps they will be harsh due to limited suspension travel (as mentioned) and the short wheel base of the car.

Coilovers are not the answer if COMFORT is what you're looking for.

NM Doesn't make R53 springs.

Swift ARE NOT comfortable on crappy roads. Anyone who tells you they are, give them one day of driving in my area and they will hate them.

Ridden on H&R's in another members car, my coilovers were more comfortable, and that isn't saying a lot.

Also if you're going to stay on stock shocks, the ONLY springs I would put on them is TSW's when they become available again (they should be sometime, not sure when), because HTechs will never be coming back.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Way offers TSW springs now...
 
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 08:10 PM
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Yes, you can order them, but they won't ship. I spoke to Way about them a couple weeks ago (Way owns TSW now) and he is still waiting on his new manufacturer.

If you don't know the backstory, there was a bad batch of the TSW V3's that came out so in the interest of quality control, Way switched manufacturers all together. They are reproducing the springs and making very slight improvements, he said he has some out on a car for testing, but he doesn't have a definite date for re release and because of that, he doesn't want to give people a date and not be able to stick to the timeframes.

That could have changed in the last couple weeks, but last I spoke to Way, he was going to make a thread when they were ready for re release... I know because I was trying forever to get a set and even finding them used is hard.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by blue2turbo

Also if you're going to stay on stock shocks, the ONLY springs I would put on them is TSW's when they become available again (they should be sometime, not sure when), because HTechs will never be coming back.
I agree, If you're going to lower your car, Its probably good to do so when you can afford to throw better shocks and struts in, like Koni's or Bili sports, that are designed for a lower car. Otherwise you will blow shocks and struts that are not designed for a ride height lower then stock.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 11:17 AM
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Interesting... I went up to Atlanta on 1 February to give Way some $$$ and he slapped a set of TSW's on.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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I drove my Clubman for 4 years,liked the look,and the ride with TSW Springs. Q
 
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Melangell
Interesting... I went up to Atlanta on 1 February to give Way some $$$ and he slapped a set of TSW's on.
I'm assuming you have a 2nd gen based off your signature, and if so, that is correct 2nd gen springs are available right now, it was the r53 springs that he had a prob with.

If the op has a second gen, then yes def order tsws.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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Don't waste time/money with lowering springs if you want a good ride...matching damper is why you want to go straight to COs...
 
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 07:39 PM
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JCW springs might be a good balance between slight drop, comfort, and handling.

Coilovers should naturally have springs that match dampers but there are also non-coilovers that match springs with dampers - Koni and H&R come to mind.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by blue2turbo
I'm assuming you have a 2nd gen based off your signature, and if so, that is correct 2nd gen springs are available right now, it was the r53 springs that he had a prob with.

If the op has a second gen, then yes def order tsws.
Yeah, my bad . OP does have 1st Gen.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 08:30 PM
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OP has 1st Gen since this is a 1st Gen forum.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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Id still put Swifts on it. I have never had a problem with the ride....
 
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 04:23 AM
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I too have the Swift/Koni sport kombi and am totally satisfied with the ride.
I would rate the roads in my area as fair and cannot complain about the ride.
What I notice is a much improved planted feel over stock but I do have H-sport comp, Vorshlag with excellent rubber.
I think its a matter of getting the whole package right. imo

 
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 04:59 AM
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I have eibach springs on stock shocks (upgrading shocks after attending to other mods) . When deciding to get springs, I wanted a good quality one, that offered a decent drop and it HAD to be comfortable as some roads in south africa are real harsh and I have speedhumps on my road as well as a few other roads on my daily commute. No shop or seller in S.Africa had any eibach or h&r or tein etc. So I got mine from the UK. I'm really pleased with it since its lower than what I thought it'd be (1 finger space between wheel and arch in rear and 2 at front). its also not harsh at all, plus I've ditched the runflats so it helps with the comfort.
 
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