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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by slinger688
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Are you thinking of adding negative camber to the front to complement the rear sway bar? You need a fair amount of negative front camber for track.
It's for autocross, and I believe in HS you're not allowed to add camber plates etc. Kinda sad, because I think the Mini (I'm about to get) has really weird alignment : -1.1 deg front left, -.3 deg front right -- after an alignment. Caster is off spec in the right wheel too
 
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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Ok, got confused by your title. I guess all you can get is the free camber from removing the pins.

Track setup would be better with complementary front camber and rear sway bar. This can make turn in more crisp and apex transition more stable.

In autox, you will need more oversteer at lower speed so a large sway bar is good.
 

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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
so geometry-wise all of these bars are the same correct? I was looking at Whiteline for "quality," Madness for thoughtful design/performance, and maybe the hotchkis for "max" performance. I like that the madness has those stops for the bushings.
No, the geometry is slightly different from bar to bar, as is the material. I agree with Way, the industry standard is the Comp bar from H Sport. I would not recommend those other brands.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by slinger688
Ok, got confused by your title. I guess all you can get is the free camber from removing the pins.

Track setup would be better with complementary front camber and rear sway bar. This can make turn in more crisp and apex transition more stable.

In autox, you will need more oversteer at lower speed so a large sway bar is good.
Sorry for the confusion, thanks. I'll look into the free camber from removing pins thing. Primarily looking at auto-x, but info is appreciated regardless.

Originally Posted by Helix13mini
No, the geometry is slightly different from bar to bar, as is the material. I agree with Way, the industry standard is the Comp bar from H Sport. I would not recommend those other brands.
Gotcha, thanks - didn't know of that, new to these cars. "industry standard" as in this is the bar that the nationally competitive HS/STF Minis are running?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 06:54 AM
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Gotcha, thanks - didn't know of that, new to these cars. "industry standard" as in this is the bar that the nationally competitive HS/STF Minis are running?
I mean that they are the benchmark for quality, fitment and performance.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Helix13mini
I mean that they are the benchmark for quality, fitment and performance.
Gotcha, thanks For evos, usually people go with Whiteline but this is a totally different world.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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I just installed my Hsport Comp (thanks Way!) this past weekend and from what I can tell already, the car is much easier to rotate through mid corner. I can get on the power much earlier. I will see what else I get when I run my next auto-x in a few weeks.

The bar itself and all it's accessories are of great quality and fitment was perfect.

I run STX locally.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Chili_head
I just installed my Hsport Comp (thanks Way!) this past weekend and from what I can tell already, the car is much easier to rotate through mid corner. I can get on the power much earlier. I will see what else I get when I run my next auto-x in a few weeks.

The bar itself and all it's accessories are of great quality and fitment was perfect.

I run STX locally.
thanks for the info -
 
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