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Suspension Quick Alignment ? before my Alignment Apointment

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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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Quick Alignment ? before my Alignment Apointment

Car Set Up:

H&R Sprints
Stock Shocks
Rear Sway Bar
TSW Rear Control Arms
Cabrio Braces
F1 GS D3's

Looking for as sporty as I can get with the least amount of tire wear:

#1:
Front Camber (cant adjust)
Front Toe: 1/16 toe IN
Rear Camber: -1.5
Rear Toe: 1/16 Toe in

#2:
Front Camber (cant adjust)
Front Toe: 1/16 toe OUT
Rear Camber: -1.5
Rear Toe: 1/16 Toe in

I guess I am confused at the front toe choices...I have done a search and some say slight toe in some say slight toe out and some say neutral.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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What you do depends on what use your car will see.

Toe out will help you car turn in a bit better. Be aware that under hard braking your car will want to hunt left or right. When on the gas the wheels will tend to pull straight. Nice on the race track, but IMO not the best set up for a street car.

On my car I run just a tiny bit of toe in in the front. My car is a street car that is tracked on occasion.

I see you have adjustable rear control arms. A good idea when lowering. Why don't you have camber plates for the front? If you want the best handling you'll need to get a set.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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Ditto - adding something as simple as IE fixed camber plates on the front will make a TON of improvement...

Personally, I'm running ZERO toe front and rear - though next time I may add a little toe in on the rear.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jtack
Car Set Up:

H&R Sprints
Stock Shocks
Rear Sway Bar
TSW Rear Control Arms
Cabrio Braces
F1 GS D3's

Looking for as sporty as I can get with the least amount of tire wear:

#1:
Front Camber (cant adjust)
Front Toe: 1/16 toe IN
Rear Camber: -1.5
Rear Toe: 1/16 Toe in

#2:
Front Camber (cant adjust)
Front Toe: 1/16 toe OUT
Rear Camber: -1.5
Rear Toe: 1/16 Toe in

I guess I am confused at the front toe choices...I have done a search and some say slight toe in some say slight toe out and some say neutral.
The differences in toe settings for the front will depend on what you want to achieve in terms of handling and tire wear.

For your two choices both will work for street use. #1 is OK for street use and essentially stock. #2 favors a more responsive turn in but not overly so but it can wear front tires a little more. If you use zero front toe it will be in between.

I run 1/8" toe out in front and do fine with street tire wear but I don't do that many miles per year- about 7000 only.
 
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