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Old May 28, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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R56 Konis on a Clubman S?

Has anyone installed the new R56-specific Koni Sport dampers on a Clubman S?

These are the ones I'm referring to specifically:
Cooper, Cooper S, Incl. Convertible 07-08 Sport
Front
8741-1512LSport
8741-1512RSport

Rear
8241-1252LSport
8241-1252RSport

Koni's application catalog indicates that these are externally adjustable in the rear, which is a nice change from the R53 style. Does anyone know if this is truly possible on the car, especially on a Clubman? And are the Koni spring perch issues fixed?

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Old May 28, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Porter
Has anyone installed the new R56-specific Koni Sport dampers on a Clubman S?

These are the ones I'm referring to specifically:

[/INDENT]Koni's application catalog indicates that these are externally adjustable in the rear, which is a nice change from the R53 style. Does anyone know if this is truly possible on the car, especially on a Clubman? And are the Koni spring perch issues fixed?

Thanks in advance,

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Maybe I'm missing something... I don't see them on the website (at least not R56 specific) and the Koni rep I exchanged emails with a few weeks ago said they would be working on sport dampers over the summer. A few vendors will sell the R53 kits since they can work but Koni won't warranty the parts if they find out you did that.
 
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Old May 28, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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Fugitive,

They are listed in the new PDF application catalog, downloadable from www.koni-na.com. The "web" catalog has not yet been updated.

The notes indicate that these are externally adjustable, and have separate part numbers for the right and left rear dampers, which is a change from the R53 as well.

The FSD units are marked "TBA" for the R56. The 28 series motorsport shocks are showing the same part numbers as previously on the R53, which makes sense since most of those applications will be built with a custom housing.
 
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Old May 28, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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I don't think these are for the R56. I think they are for the R53 and the current convertibles since they still have the same body. Maybe I'm not reading it right...
 
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Old May 28, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FugitiveAI
I don't think these are for the R56. I think they are for the R53 and the current convertibles since they still have the same body. Maybe I'm not reading it right...
You aren't reading it right.

They have two sections, one for "Cooper, Cooper S, incl Convertible Years 02-06" which is the R53 cars.

The second section is "Cooper, Cooper S, incl Convertible Years 07-08" which would be the R56. This is the new section, and the part numbers I posted are new.


Here's a chart:
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MINI (CONTINUED)                                                YEAR   |  Product          FRONT                REAR              KIT #       LOWERING F/R   NOTES
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    Cooper, Cooper S, incl. Convertible                         02-06  |  Sport            8741-1440LSport      8041-1293Sport
    Front: with anti-roll bar attached to damper body; Rear:           |                   8741-1440RSport
    damper unit must be removed from car before it can be              |
    adjusted; build date after 3-1-2002                                |
                                                                       |
    Track Cars / Limited Street Use                                    |  28 Series        2817-1440L           2812LB-1293
                                                                       |                   2817-1440R
                                                                       |
    excl. Convertible                                                  |  Sport Springs                                          1020-6085     30 30         1
    excl. Convertible                                                  |  Sport Kit                                              1130-1900     30 30         1, 17, 19
    excl. Convertible                                                  |  Coil-over Kit                                          1150-5079     50 45         17, 21, 22
                                                                       |  FSD Kit                                                2100-4010
                                                                       |
                                                                       |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Cooper, Cooper S, Incl. Convertible                          07-08  |  Sport            8741-1512LSport     8241-1252LSport
                                                                       |                   8741-1512RSport     8241-1252RSport
                                                                       |
   Track Cars / Limited Street Use                                     |  28 Series        2817-1440L          2812LB-1293
                                                                       |                   2817-1440R
                                                                       |
                                                                       |  FSD                                                    TBA
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's the Koni application catalog download link, for those who are interested:

http://www.koni-na.com/pdfcatalogs/2008_Full.pdf

The section I'm referencing is on the 26th page of the PDF, page 25 of the text.
 

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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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I've seen that ad too. The company I work for has a close relationship with Tire Rack. I called one of the Tire Rack reps with those part numbers and he said he hadn't heard anything about those. This was about a month ago, so I don't know what's happened since then.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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I think it may be somewhat of a type-o. What makes me weary is the representation that the same part numbers work on the hardtop and convertible 07-08 models. I don't think they will be the same until the 09 convertible comes out.

The email response I got from Koni May 13 stated they would have R56 sport dampers by the end of the year. Not to say he is right and you are not so definitely post here if you are able to get them or get confirmation they are indeed available to ship now... I've been waiting for these too
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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What makes me weary is the representation that the same part numbers work on the hardtop and convertible 07-08 models.

The email response I got from Koni May 13 stated they would have R56 sport dampers by the end of the year. Not to say he is right and you are not so definitely post here if you are able to get them or get confirmation they are indeed available to ship now... I've been waiting for these too
 
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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 08:12 AM
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I really really really want this to be true.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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I think they made up the part numbers in anticipation of having these shocks available by the end of the year so they wouldn't have to reprint the catalog when they came out. They are most likely not in stock.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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I just spoke to my contact at Koni. These are in the process of going to production right now.

The jury is out at the moment whether the first production run will be finished prior to the Koni (Europe) holiday starting in mid-July, or whether the first units will ship after the holiday, for US arrival in August or so.

My gut instinct tells me it will probably be the August timeframe on these.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2008 | 12:46 AM
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I've been waiting for these as well, hopefully sooner then August, I could really use some new shocks. I'm running the Eibach springs and I think my stock non sport shocks cant handle them, the car has become more bouncy over time rebound damping would be a great thing. If anyone gets any new info, please post it. Thank!!!

Braden
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 02:07 AM
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Just checking in, anyone have any news on the Koni's ??
 
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Old Jul 23, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by minicobra1
Just checking in, anyone have any news on the Koni's ??
Latest I heard today is they are still in development and expect to release them this fall. I might end up with coilovers before the Koni's are even an option!
 
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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I just checked in on the Koni's. Earliest ETA is now pushed back to February. I guess MINI is a very low priority for them.
 
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