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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Lowest Drop Coilover

So i've searched but to no avail. What coilover system allows for the most drop?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Doesnt seem to be a ton of variance....the slammed MINIs that i know of are running Megans(Dopamine, Msfitoy, myself), KW's(konky), Ksport (kalbone), and M7 (MINIFireman aka Flamez).
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Doesnt seem to be a ton of variance....the slammed MINIs that i know of are running Megans(Dopamine, Msfitoy, myself), KW's(konky), Ksport (kalbone), and M7 (MINIFireman aka Flamez).
Front camber isn't greatly affected by slamming the car is it? How much are you dropped would you say? Gonna save up for the Keskin KT4's like I had first wanted to, but I have to do it right with coils, so I'm starting early research lol
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Front camber isn't greatly affected by slamming the car is it? How much are you dropped would you say? Gonna save up for the Keskin KT4's like I had first wanted to, but I have to do it right with coils, so I'm starting early research lol
Front camber changes very little if any when lowered....even if you're slammed. Toe is changed though....so its good to get an alignment after they're on. And of course, rear camber can get crazy if you lower as much as some of the people i listed.


I actually dont know how much I'm dropped. On my old konigs, i had the megans almost all the way down with only a few coils left. I havent been able to get the height permanently set yet with my current wheels....still stuck playing with camber.

The megans and ksports both offer camber plates in their setup which is nice if you want to go with an agressive offset wheel.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Wake|MCS
So i've searched but to no avail. What coilover system allows for the most drop?
It depends if you want your Mini to move or not...I haven't tried but you should be able to crank coil/overs down until the fender wells are sitting on the tires...
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
It depends if you want your Mini to move or not...You should be able to crank coil/overs down until the fender wells are sitting on the tires...
Depends on the coilover....some have reported that the Pss9's just can't offer a slammed ride after trying to spin them all the way down.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Depends on the coilover....some have reported that the Pss9's just can't offer a slammed ride after trying to spin them all the way down.
I wonder if the Megans can go lower...I just don't because I like some travel...
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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i droped my car on H&R coilovers. lowest setting
there is a good amount of rear camber. so im gonna raise it. handlig doesnt feel taht great but i think rising it will improve the handling

opps didnt notice this was 1st gen forums hah
 

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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Like MSFITOY said; the level of slamming depends on how much you want to mushroom your strut towers and bend your wheels [by getting rid of compression travel].
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I wonder if the Megans can go lower...I just don't because I like some travel...
They definitely do. I could have basically put the fenders on my tires with my old konigs.....and they had a much shorter diameter tire installed

The Pss9's really can't get slammed. This is a pic of Pss9's spun all the way down with no more thread.....it's low and definitely looks good like this, but the other coilovers could go further.

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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Looks like he cut of his airdam to get some ground clearance back.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
Looks like he cut of his airdam to get some ground clearance back.
I believe he did....or removed it, i forget.It still isn't as low as some of the other options.

**don't mean to sound like I'm saying Pss9's are bad.....they have gotten a lot of praise on the track etc......but in terms of this thread, they don't offer the same adjustability as the others**
 
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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If you want to slam the car without compramising the ride quality I would go with the CROSS suspention available from me MINICORSA or Revolution Mini Works (JAN). They are the ones where you can lower the car without compramising the spring preload. That is what is the main flaw of the other coil over systems you can slam the car but the shock bottoms out over potholes and bumps on the road and will mess the car up. This system comes with camberplates and are dampening adjustable. And the greatest part of all a slamed MINI will ride better then if it was on stock suspention.

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 05:07 AM
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If you want to slam the car without compramising the ride quality I would go with the CROSS suspention available from me MINICORSA or Revolution Mini Works (JAN). They are the ones where you can lower the car without compramising the spring preload.
The Megans , Nex, D2 rs, and the Ksports all offer the same ability as well Any of the coilovers that offer ride height adjustments without altering the spring perch can give you this ability.

Saying a slammed ride will ride better than stock is a bit of an exaggeration....but it certainly helps. The truth is, they still lose some travel....and no slammed ride will ever ride better than stock...no matter how awesome the coilovers are.
 

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Woah this thread got some publicity... Funny how some are still harsh on the whole slam your ride idea... Get over it... I asked for which coilover offered the most drop not what you think about mushrooming towers and bending wheels..

I don't track, autox, or drag race my car. Occasional "spirited" driving... Let me rephrase the original question, some of you think slammed is the devil, thinking my fenders will be sitting on the tires, I don't want that.. I want them just over the tires with a nice aggressive offset and a tiny tiny bit of stretch....

Rally, on a 17x8 would a 215/40/17 provide any stretch at all? It can be ever so slight but I like 215 over the 205...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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well, if you don't drive your car, just remove your springs. that will give
you the most drop.





Originally Posted by Wake|MCS
Woah this thread got some publicity... Funny how some are still harsh on the whole slam your ride idea... Get over it... I asked for which coilover offered the most drop not what you think about mushrooming towers and bending wheels..

I don't track, autox, or drag race my car. Occasional "spirited" driving... Let me rephrase the original question, some of you think slammed is the devil, thinking my fenders will be sitting on the tires, I don't want that.. I want them just over the tires with a nice aggressive offset and a tiny tiny bit of stretch....

Rally, on a 17x8 would a 215/40/17 provide any stretch at all? It can be ever so slight but I like 215 over the 205...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Rally, on a 17x8 would a 215/40/17 provide any stretch at all? It can be ever so slight but I like 215 over the 205...
Depends on the tire. Some tires stretch better than others. I think for the most part 215's will stretch nicely on an 8 since they are 17's.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Wake|MCS
So i've searched but to no avail. What coilover system allows for the most drop?
Why are you thinking about coilovers when you have a tranny to replace?....
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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I'm pretty sure CROSS is manufacturer of coilovers right now that offers height adjustability independent of shock travel.

To clarify, raised as high as they go, the CROSS coilovers have exactly the same shock compression travel as when you set them as low as they can go. My "Aero Dam" under my aero front bumper has about 3/4" of ground clearance right now and the coilovers have another inch and a half or so of drop left. (To put that into perspective, I scrape the ground with the lip just driving around a gas station with the little raised doors for the gas tanks.) I'm PRETTY low . The reason these coilovers ride better is because no matter what the height, the piston still has the same amount of dampening and travel. I've had 4 different types of suspensions on my car (Including stock) and this one is the most comfortable, and BY FAR the best performing. This would be my second mod on a stock MINI, after a pulley.

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The Megans , Nex, D2 rs, and the Ksports all offer the same ability as well Any of the coilovers that offer ride height adjustments without altering the spring perch can give you this ability.

Saying a slammed ride will ride better than stock is a bit of an exaggeration....but it certainly helps. The truth is, they still lose some travel....and no slammed ride will ever ride better than stock...no matter how awesome the coilovers are.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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I'm pretty sure CROSS is manufacturer of coilovers right now that offers height adjustability independent of shock travel.
Maybe you're right....but I'm not sure. How do the Cross achieve this? How do you raise or lower yours....so i can compare to the process on my Megans? I'm pretty sure its the same method.

The coilovers i listed have heigh adjustbality independent of the spring perch....which is exactly how the CROSS's are described on the DMH site:

Ride Height Adjustment. Both front and rear ride height adjustability is independent from the spring perch so adjusting ride height does not compromise the spring rate or rebound and compression of the damper.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by UKSUV
Why are you thinking about coilovers when you have a tranny to replace?....
LMAO!!

I'm thinking for later in the year.. Right now I'm think '06 spd tranny with lsd FTW! hehe

Coilovers will come hopefully not too too far behind, my car just sits WAY too high on H-Sports...
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Wake|MCS
LMAO!!

I'm thinking for later in the year.. Right now I'm think '06 spd tranny with lsd FTW! hehe

Coilovers will come hopefully not too too far behind, my car just sits WAY too high on H-Sports...
Well, Im on PSS9's and my interior is gutted. With them wound all of the way down the rear tucks and the front is right above the tire. I love them but right now retail is so expensive. Kalbone's K-Sports have like 2 inches left and he is slammed lower than me! Its like a competition.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by UKSUV
Well, Im on PSS9's and my interior is gutted. With them wound all of the way down the rear tucks and the front is right above the tire. I love them but right now retail is so expensive. Kalbone's K-Sports have like 2 inches left and he is slammed lower than me! Its like a competition.
Hmm I'm liking K-Sports more and more.. do you know what setting he is using for damping adjustment? How is the ride at his ride height??
 
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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my megans cant go any lower and i still have wheel gap :S

any advice on what it could be?
 
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Originally Posted by GT_GREG
my megans cant go any lower and i still have wheel gap :S

any advice on what it could be?
What size wheels/tires are you using?

How are you lowering the suspension? Are you sure you're lowering it properly?
 
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