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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Oversensitive DSC ??

It's now white up here in Barrie and this morning I had to switch off my DSC so that I could pull away at junctions ..... is this normal????

I even tried gently lifting the clutch @ 1200 rpm, just enough to stop it stalling. In second gear it was no better.

If this keeps up I will be deselecting the DSC for the winter.

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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The first thing I do after starting is turn off the DSC. If mine even senses a slight bit of wheel slip I lose engine power.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Isn't the function of the DSC a matter of lack of traction? Without good traction could cause the DSC to activate more often.If it is ,then improper tires, cold hard summer tires in the winter ,worn or otherwise could cause it to become sensitive.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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The owners manuals even says to turn off the DCS if on snowy roads. The traction control is a bit sensitive. Traction control is only a small part of the DCS system....check your owners manual for a complete explanation.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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Thanks for that, all of you .... I'm a little wiser and lot happier that I probably don't have a problem

FYI I'm on Pirelli Snowcontrols with about 80% tread

Paul
 
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottinBend
The owners manuals even says to turn off the DCS if on snowy roads.
No it doesn't. Read more carefully...

From the 2005 manual:
When driving with snow chains or to 'rock free' in snow, it can be helpful to switch off the ASC / DSC for a brief period. To maintain vehicle stability, always drive with the ASC / DSC switched on whenever possible.
Roadsailer, what tires are you using and what are the road conditions?
 
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadsailer
Thanks for that, all of you .... I'm a little wiser and lot happier that I probably don't have a problem

FYI I'm on Pirelli Snowcontrols with about 80% tread

Paul
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Roadsailer, what tires are you using and what are the road conditions?
You probably posted seconds apart but he posted the tires he has
 
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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Roadsailer, what tires are you using and what are the road conditions?[/quote]

The road contions were a slight covering of fresh snow and temps around freezing

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mdsbrain
You probably posted seconds apart but he posted the tires he has
Yup... it took me a while to find the right passage from the owner's manual.

My traction control will kick in when starting out in the snow, even with snow tires. I take that as a friendly reminder that it's slippery out. Whenever possible, I leave the DSC on, especially in winter. It does amazingly good things in the snow once you're moving, and I can usually get moving with it left on without too much drama.

Sometimes, I use the second gear and gentle throttle approach to try to avoid triggering the traction control.

Other times, I get lazy and just floor the gas wit the DSC on and let the computer figure it out. It works great when you approach a hill and you're moving at a slow speed. One of the ski area parking lots I would enter often last winter had an uphill entrance. You'd watch people spin tires like mad trying to get up the hill. I'd just make the turn, floor the gas, and motor up the hill no problem with the traction control modulating the throttle for me.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by snid
Yup... it took me a while to find the right passage from the owner's manual.

My traction control will kick in when starting out in the snow, even with snow tires. I take that as a friendly reminder that it's slippery out. Whenever possible, I leave the DSC on, especially in winter. It does amazingly good things in the snow once you're moving, and I can usually get moving with it left on without too much drama.

Sometimes, I use the second gear and gentle throttle approach to try to avoid triggering the traction control.

Other times, I get lazy and just floor the gas wit the DSC on and let the computer figure it out. It works great when you approach a hill and you're moving at a slow speed. One of the ski area parking lots I would enter often last winter had an uphill entrance. You'd watch people spin tires like mad trying to get up the hill. I'd just make the turn, floor the gas, and motor up the hill no problem with the traction control modulating the throttle for me.
so what you are advising is to ignore the fact that driving 'normally', the DSC cuts my drive, but if I gun it, the computer will give me some power?
Paul
 
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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Welocme to what is probably

the single most infuriating thing with out cars. FWIW, some of the ECU tuning packages fix this, making the traction control do what it should, reduce power, but not to the point that you are unsafe or bouncing off the dash.... You are not the first to comment that it is too sensitive, intrusive and potentially dangerous!

MTH basic offers the traction control modification, along with an increase in red-line (by a bit). I don't know what others offer this feature, but it's wonderful. I can floor it through puddles, and when the wheels start to spin, some power is taken out, but it keeps pulling......

You can get in touch with Don at Precision Mini (changing his name to something else now...). His handle here is DMH.....

Matt
 
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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I've contacted Don .... thanks

Paul
 
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