View Poll Results: If you had mushrooming or a cracked strut mount please vote
mushrooming: stock suspension / 15" non-runflat tires
32
3.00%
mushrooming: stock suspension / 16" runflat tires
83
7.79%
mushrooming: stock suspension / 16" non-runflat tires
68
6.38%
mushrooming: stock suspension / 17" runflat tires
346
32.46%
mushrooming: stock suspension / 17" non-runflat tires
214
20.08%
mushrooming: stock suspension / 18" runflat tires
22
2.06%
mushrooming: stock suspension / 18" non-runflat tires
24
2.25%
mushrooming: lowering springs / 15" non-runflat tires
3
0.28%
mushrooming: lowering springs / 16" runflat tires
7
0.66%
mushrooming: lowering springs / 16" non-runflat tires
16
1.50%
mushrooming: lowering springs / 17" runflat tires
31
2.91%
mushrooming: lowering springs / 17" non-runflat tires
58
5.44%
mushrooming: lowering springs / 18" runflat tires
4
0.38%
mushrooming: lowering springs / 18" non-runflat tires
18
1.69%
cracked strut mount: stock suspension / 15" non-runflat tires
24
2.25%
cracked strut mount: stock suspension / 16" runflat tires
34
3.19%
cracked strut mount: stock suspension / 16" non-runflat tires
32
3.00%
cracked strut mount: stock suspension / 17" runflat tires
112
10.51%
cracked strut mount: stock suspension / 17" non-runflat tires
74
6.94%
cracked strut mount: stock suspension / 18" runflat tires
6
0.56%
cracked strut mount: stock suspension / 18" non-runflat tires
14
1.31%
cracked strut mount: lowering springs / 15" non-runflat tires
3
0.28%
cracked strut mount: lowering springs / 16" runflat tires
6
0.56%
cracked strut mount: lowering springs / 16" non-runflat tires
11
1.03%
cracked strut mount: lowering springs / 17" runflat tires
11
1.03%
cracked strut mount: lowering springs / 17" non-runflat tires
25
2.35%
cracked strut mount: lowering springs / 18" runflat tires
5
0.47%
cracked strut mount: lowering springs / 18" non-runflat tires
8
0.75%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 1066. You may not vote on this poll
Poll: Mushrooming/strut mount failure data collection
#28
80% of those who posted who have mushroomed are using 17 inch wheels. so far at least. I also would guess many enthusiasts would enjoy 17 inch wheels. Still, barring that skewing the results, I would think that there are enough 15 track runners and a load of of 16 standard users who would have also voted. Enough I would guess to make more than 20% of the people who viewed the pole.
Survey says! 17's suck. :(
Survey says! 17's suck. :(
#29
Originally Posted by El_Jefe
Survey says! 17's suck. :(
If you want to up the accuracy a bit, how about adding options for those who don't have mushrooming or cracked strut towers? For example, I'm running 18" runflats (currently stock sport suspension, but planning H-Sport springs and FSDs soon)... and I have no problems so far in 3200 miles.
It would be nice if we had a database where people could input and update their 'shrooming profiles at will, but I'm guessing that would take a bit more work than the current poll...
#32
Originally Posted by El_Jefe
80% of those who posted who have mushroomed are using 17 inch wheels. so far at least. I also would guess many enthusiasts would enjoy 17 inch wheels. Still, barring that skewing the results, I would think that there are enough 15 track runners and a load of of 16 standard users who would have also voted. Enough I would guess to make more than 20% of the people who viewed the pole.
Survey says! 17's suck. [Emphasis added.] :(
Survey says! 17's suck. [Emphasis added.] :(
If you want to avoid the issue of mushrooming and/or cracked strut mounts, it seems that you need to go with non-runflat tires, 16 inch or less wheels and no lowering springs. All of which would intuitively seem to be prudent - they all act to reduce the transfer of road shock to the strut mount and strut tower.
Conversely, if you want to go with 17+inch wheels, lower profile or runflat tires, and/or lowering springs, you had better plan on doing something (strut plates or camber plates (or both)) to reinforce the strut towers.
#33
#36
#37
Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Why isn't there a NO mushroom on the poll? [Emphasis added.]
52,000 miles multiple state drives/17" 215-45 tires/Megan coil-over/M7 strut bar...no mushroom
52,000 miles multiple state drives/17" 215-45 tires/Megan coil-over/M7 strut bar...no mushroom
#38
#39
Originally Posted by ricky
My 05 MCS, 17" runflats, has 26500 miles. At 22,000, just one lousy surprise black hole whacked my right side. Sounded like a big baseball bat, no maybe a land mine. I mean it will rock you! It's just the luck of the draw. I guess, Just say no to potholes.
#40
Just the strut mount. I had no idea about mushrooms till I learned about it here. First thing I thought was will I be going down like a Japanese Zero in flames when it hit. But it kept on going straight with no vibration. Pulled over to look at the wheel. Rubber had transfered or bonded to my white S lites. About 5 inches on rim. Tire was good and no cracks. After enlightenment 2,000 miles later from NAM I checked the tower. Oh was I pained! Got it all straight, no alignment, none the worse for the wear! Still goes like a bat outa
#41
Originally Posted by caminifan
...you are either incredibly fortunate or are driving around all of the road hazards.
#42
Would it be worth it to have those of you who did post to the poll to add pics of your strut towers? ie see if they all bend the same amount in the same location? or if some are worse off than others? just a thought...
BTW: 6500miles on a 06MCS with 17" S-Lites and non-runflats = so far so good. This includes 2500miles on MTTS and I think I missed that expansion joint on 66, either that or I just didn't go far enough east. <sigh pf relief>
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BTW: 6500miles on a 06MCS with 17" S-Lites and non-runflats = so far so good. This includes 2500miles on MTTS and I think I missed that expansion joint on 66, either that or I just didn't go far enough east. <sigh pf relief>
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#44
Originally Posted by jimmyd1
where can i get that character of a cooper s like some of you have?
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=71003
#45
I just sold my beautiful 0 miles set of 16's and runflats :(
Bought a set of 15" konig rewinds in silver an 205/60/15 Falken 512 all seasons.
I hope the performance can be on par with the 16's.
I know now that my m7 plates that are comming in the mail, the new 15's, the new 2006 version strut build, all will make me the ultimate test to see if it can be stopped.
the only other thing would be FSD replacement, something I want to avoid hving to spend on.
Bought a set of 15" konig rewinds in silver an 205/60/15 Falken 512 all seasons.
I hope the performance can be on par with the 16's.
I know now that my m7 plates that are comming in the mail, the new 15's, the new 2006 version strut build, all will make me the ultimate test to see if it can be stopped.
the only other thing would be FSD replacement, something I want to avoid hving to spend on.
#46
Originally Posted by El_Jefe
I just sold my beautiful 0 miles set of 16's and runflats :(
Bought a set of 15" konig rewinds in silver an 205/60/15 Falken 512 all seasons.
I hope the performance can be on par with the 16's.
I know now that my m7 plates that are comming in the mail, the new 15's, the new 2006 version strut build, all will make me the ultimate test to see if it can be stopped.
the only other thing would be FSD replacement, something I want to avoid hving to spend on.
Bought a set of 15" konig rewinds in silver an 205/60/15 Falken 512 all seasons.
I hope the performance can be on par with the 16's.
I know now that my m7 plates that are comming in the mail, the new 15's, the new 2006 version strut build, all will make me the ultimate test to see if it can be stopped.
the only other thing would be FSD replacement, something I want to avoid hving to spend on.
The FSDs will make the ride that much better, however. The stock shocks are very good at transferring the frequency of the road imperfections into the seat (and ultimately to your back/neck). The FSDs stop the frequency transfer. After putting on FSDs, I certainly wouldn't want to go back to stock.
#48
Seems interesting that the majority of mushrooming is with Run-Flats.... Guess the suspension was not designed w/ stiff sidewalls in mind.
I've added my vote - 16's and runflats. for the record NO potholes, and NO major bangs that I can think of. Called MOP and they say it's road-hazard, not covered by warranty.
I've added my vote - 16's and runflats. for the record NO potholes, and NO major bangs that I can think of. Called MOP and they say it's road-hazard, not covered by warranty.
#49
Originally Posted by Eric B
Would it be worth it to have those of you who did post to the poll to add pics of your strut towers? ie see if they all bend the same amount in the same location? or if some are worse off than others? just a thought...
I put the driver's side plate on first to establish a baseline. Then I plopped the passenger side one on and noticed it wobbled a bit. So I tightened it down a bit anyway, and noticed that it would seat. But there were spaces under the brace that weren't under the other one.
So I jacked the car up to take some pressure off the shock and tower, and took off the brace, and started to hammer at different parts of the top if the tower with a sledgehammer on a piece of 2x3. Then I placed the brace back on to see if it wobbled and where it pivoted so I could work on that area.
After a while I became worried that I was gonna damage something so I stopped. I don't have the tools to remove the front shock assembly and I don't wanna mess with it, anyway.
So I was wondering. If the braces bolt down with no stress to the nuts and bolts, and the same umber of threads are showing on all the nuts, is this okay? I also don't see, at this point, how these braces are going to do any good, unless they just allow the sheetmetal at the top of the tower to come up only as far as the bottom of the brace.
#50
Called MOP and they say it's road-hazard, not covered by warranty.