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Fan/blower not operating - input sought

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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Fan/blower not operating - input sought

I don't see a Fault/Fixes Forum on NAM like on MINI2, but this seems like the most apporopriate place...

Whether in manual or auto, heat, defrost, A/C, or any speed, I get zip in terms of movement of air. All the lights and idicators seem to work just fine...

Here is brief discussion where one can see what I've done so far...

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...=1#post1261319

I would really love to get some more ideas. Thank you very much!
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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Maybe your skidpan is loose?

Kidding, and thanks - your pan is doing fine. Have you tried a test 19-21 software reset?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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Battery skid pan... now I remember you! Glad it had found a home on your MCS...

I'm not sure what a 19-21 software reset is, to be honest. I'm going to be testing the relays to make sure they are working correctly, and if that doesn't do it, I'll just ask my local dealer in a few weeks...
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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19-21 reset

-begin exerpt from MINI2-
  1. With the key in the ignition, but in the off position, press and hold down the odometer reset button, while holding the button down, switch the key in the ignition to position 1.
  2. The screen will say 'Test' and a number.
  3. Scroll through, (pressing reset button) through to test 19 and wait a moment.
  4. Wait and the message will say "log i-off" then "log i-on" and back to "log i-off" again. When "log i-off" appears, press again. You are now in the system. (Woooo)
  5. You can (if you wish) start the ignition any time from now.
  6. Scroll through to test 7.0 (or whichever from the list below) and wait a moment, after a pause you will enter the test 7.* range of information.
  7. You can scroll through now (7.1,7.2,7.3 etc.) using the reset button.
  8. You can exit each menu by pressing, holding for a few seconds, then releasing the reset button.
  9. To leave the system scroll to 19 and leave it for a few moments.
    Switching off the ignition also exits the system.
Test:

1.0 Chassis number
1.1 Kilometer count
1.2 Parts number
1.3 Coding-, Diagnostic- and Bus-index
1.4 Production Date (Calender week/year)
1.5 Hard- and Software status
1.6 Injectorstatus, Cylinder count, Engine factor.

2.0 Combisystem Test

3.0 Service intervall counter

4.0 Actual fuel consumption in l/100km. eg.0154 = 15,4 liters/100kms.
4.1 Consumption in liters/100kms.

5.0 Distance consumption in l/100kms.
5.1 Actual rest distance with available fuel in Kms.

6.0 Actual amount of fuel in tank. eg. 123321 =12,3liters left 32,1 liters right
6.1 Total amount of fuel in tank.
6.2 Show value of Fuel guage. 1= both senders OK, 2= sender failure, 3=ti signal unplausible (no reading)

7.0 Actual coolant temp.
7.1 Actual outside temp.
7.2 Actual engine revs.
7.3 Actual speed

8.0 Hexadecimal readings of menu 7.0 to 7.3

9.0 Actual on board voltage (Battery)

10.0 Land codes

11.0 Unit codes

12.0 No funktion

13.0 Gong test

14.0 - 14.4 On board diagnostic codes. eg 000000 = no failures

15.0 - 18.0 No funktion

19.0 On/Off for Test menu.

20.0 Correction factor for Fuel consumption
Formula for correction:
Shown consumption x 1000 / user defined consumption
Push the trip reset button to begin the correction. Numbers count up from 0-9, when correct number shows push trip reset button.

20.1 Sets 10ths. for consumption factor
20.2 Sets 100ths. and 1000ths. for consumption factor
20.3 Saves the new consumption factor and shows new value

21.0 Software reset. (Same as disconnecting battery)
-end excerpt-

The software reset in supposed to be more thorough than just disconnecting the battery. I don't really know, though.
Good luck - Bodinski
 
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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I actually copied and saved that language, somewhere! Ok, I will try it. At this point, I'm grabbing at straws. Thanks!
 
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Just a follow-up...

I'm still with an inoperable fan/blower. I suppose there is some good news though...

I took-out the front console (what surrounds the shifter), the fascia pillars/drop-down tubes, toggles, and gloove box. This provides access to all 3 servo motors for the fan blower. I disco'd all 3 connectors, and after reconnecting them, and after starting the the car, and with the blower activated, nothing (no air)... but after about 1 minute, the fan came roaring on!!! I tried different speeds, heat, A/C, and everything worked. I called it a day, feeling pretty good about things...

The next day, it didn't work, even after trying the disco of the servo motors again . I say good news because I'm convinced that the fan itself is fine, but there is some electrical issue, somewhere... I also noted the time of day, and tried this procedure again (at that time), to no avail...

I noticed in the Bentely manual that the grounds for all 3 servo motors are forward the front conosle, which I had removed. I don't see any ground points in that area, so I started this thread to see if others did:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ht=IHKA+ground

I went to a local MINI dealership during my lunch break last week, and after chatting with a technician, he didn't know where those ground points were either... While having his attention, I asked about the fan/blower resistor, and how I don't have one loacted as per the Bentley manual's description (per my production date): page 640-16 and 640-30 (big white thing "A" in the bottom picture). I have a void where the resistor should be... obviously everything worked fine before though. The tech did say that the resistor can be up further in the dash, which would need removal. The Bentley manual, while very helpful, has been a wrong (errors or ommissions) a few times for me...

So, at this point, I believe that I could have a faulty ground or resistor. I certainly don't want to put everything back in my car now as the investigation continues. Oh, I also did a battery disco as well . As always, input is appreciated...
 
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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Stay away from the auto HVAC,the manual is not that hard to set and leave alone,IMOP
 
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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aren't british cars great? so much character!
 
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