r56 rear creaking resolved
#1
r56 rear creaking resolved
Earlier this year I had a subtle clunk so I replaced the rear endlinks and rear say bar bushings. Over time there was creaking from the back that started and got louder.
This morning I unloaded the rear of the car (both sides jacked up) wheels removed, endlinks disconnected - it was clear the creaking was coming from the rear sway bar bushings .......I just replaced them in May...I installed the new ones from the dealer, no squeaking....
I'll post a video of the squeaking rear sway bar bushings...
I may have purchased these Febi rear bushings from Amazon - I'll post pictures as well.
This morning I unloaded the rear of the car (both sides jacked up) wheels removed, endlinks disconnected - it was clear the creaking was coming from the rear sway bar bushings .......I just replaced them in May...I installed the new ones from the dealer, no squeaking....
I'll post a video of the squeaking rear sway bar bushings...
I may have purchased these Febi rear bushings from Amazon - I'll post pictures as well.
#2
Man on man. I guess I bought the rear bushings off amazon really cheap. They worked fine for a while but I suspect the hole was smaller diameter than the oem bushings. I just bought them from the dealer as they aren’t that expensive. Now it is quiet!!
I suspect the ones off amazon were inferior rubber quality
the one on the left is the amazon one and the one on the right is the oem one from the dealer. Too bad I can’t upload the video. It clearly demonstrates the annoying sound.
I suspect the ones off amazon were inferior rubber quality
the one on the left is the amazon one and the one on the right is the oem one from the dealer. Too bad I can’t upload the video. It clearly demonstrates the annoying sound.
#3
Man on man. I guess I bought the rear bushings off amazon really cheap. They worked fine for a while but I suspect the hole was smaller diameter than the oem bushings. I just bought them from the dealer as they aren’t that expensive. Now it is quiet!!
I suspect the ones off amazon were inferior rubber quality
the one on the left is the amazon one and the one on the right is the oem one from the dealer. Too bad I can’t upload the video. It clearly demonstrates the annoying sound.
I suspect the ones off amazon were inferior rubber quality
the one on the left is the amazon one and the one on the right is the oem one from the dealer. Too bad I can’t upload the video. It clearly demonstrates the annoying sound.
#4
As I mentioned, I regiment just getting from the dealer as they are inexpensive. In the end my cheapness cost me Time as I did the job twice....
#5
I bought a used 2011, 64K but it looks like it was driven on a lot of country dirt roads. The shocks also feel worn but still have a bit more life in them because I can still feel they provide descent support. So I was trying to figure out what it was. It sounds like something is "loose" in the trunk but different from shock noise. Just ordinary road cracks kind of make a "double sound". Is there any way to "inspect" them without disassembly? How much are the OEM compared to Amazon?
They look dirt cheap where shipping is the primary cost. https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/130178...UaAo5XEALw_wcB
Last edited by mini-is-for-me; 10-11-2019 at 06:56 AM.
#6
Can you please post the video to Youtube and just give us a link to the Youtube video. I feel like I have this sound?
I bought a used 2011 but it looks like it was driven a lot of country dirt roads. The shocks also feel worn but still have a bit more life in them because I can still feel they provide descent support. So I was trying to figure out what it was. It sounds like something is "loose" in the trunk but different from shock noise. Just ordinary road cracks kind of make a "double sound". Is there any way to "inspect" them without disassembly? How much are the OEM compared to Amazon?
They look dirt cheap where shipping is the primary cost. https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/130178...UaAo5XEALw_wcB
I bought a used 2011 but it looks like it was driven a lot of country dirt roads. The shocks also feel worn but still have a bit more life in them because I can still feel they provide descent support. So I was trying to figure out what it was. It sounds like something is "loose" in the trunk but different from shock noise. Just ordinary road cracks kind of make a "double sound". Is there any way to "inspect" them without disassembly? How much are the OEM compared to Amazon?
They look dirt cheap where shipping is the primary cost. https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/130178...UaAo5XEALw_wcB
#7
It looks like mine for a 2011 would be different. 18mm
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-febi-par...556772788~feb/
over the 16mm
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...r/33556754823/
I'm not sure if this is my problem yet.
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#9
2cati is saying they are not as good and have problems over the OEM's. Did you have problems with yours? How difficult of a job is this to do?
It looks like mine for a 2011 would be different. 18mm
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-febi-par...556772788~feb/
over the 16mm
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...r/33556754823/
I'm not sure if this is my problem yet.
It looks like mine for a 2011 would be different. 18mm
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-febi-par...556772788~feb/
over the 16mm
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...r/33556754823/
I'm not sure if this is my problem yet.
it really isn’t hard from the videos I’ve seen. Take off tire, remove two bolts, replace bushing, reinstall two bolts, put back tire.
#10
Also, it kinda looks like these need to be installed with grease. Did you both use bushing grease?
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-powerfle...ease/pcg1~pfx/
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-powerfle...ease/pcg1~pfx/
i found this thread for whatever it is worth:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...sway_bar_bushi
#11
Also, it kinda looks like these need to be installed with grease. Did you both use bushing grease?
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-powerfle...ease/pcg1~pfx/
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-powerfle...ease/pcg1~pfx/
That silicone grease is for polyurethane bushings.
the sway bar link bushing is rubber. So I would think no.
#12
So there is a youtube video for this? I took a look under there and it looks like an X so it is attached top and bottom on each tire? I guess you need 4 then, not 2?
#13
So the sound I hear seems to be happening just constantly while driving and the best way I can describe it, is that it sounds like the rear lift gate is not completely shut and so the smallest bump makes a creaking bump sound.
#14
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=33_1358
check your model if it is different.
I found this video to be helpful:
#15
that is also what mine sounds like! But I’ve checked the tailgate and have verified that’s not the source of the noise.
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#16
mine looks like this>
https://new.minimania.com/Mini_Coope...e_Control_Arms
What am I trying to fix?
#17
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#18
I just had them the upper shock mounts replaced back in May with lemfordelar. Could they have been installed too loosely?
#19
there are two of them total for mine:
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=33_1358
check your model if it is different.
I found this video to be helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3DIp9DMSVg
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=33_1358
check your model if it is different.
I found this video to be helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3DIp9DMSVg
#20
The Bushing looks like a cheaper and easier fix to start with according to that video. I shined a light up there and I can see the rubber is dry, hard, cracked and basically looks done. The bushing clamp and bolts have a lot of rust on them so it needs to be taken out, derusted, primed and repainted. My biggest fear will be the threads or heads are rusted off the bolts. I hear this sound without even going over a noticeable bump. I looked at the shock and I can see the top of the shock is not touching the body. The driver's side shock looks like it is in very good condition. The passenger side doesn't look as good. However, both look better than the front shocks. My plan is to replace the front shocks the same time as the brakes and the rear shock the same time as the rear brakes. Front brakes are nearly worn, <8000 miles left on those is my guess.
#21
Fixros, If the shock mounts were not tightened enough, or have loosened a bit this could be the issue. I had 1 of mine start making some noise after installing the powerflex shock mounts. Had to remove an re-tighten. The least amount of movement in that upper mount will cause a rattle/clunk noise. Some mechanics I know advise using an impact wrench to tighten sufficiently.
#22
Fixros, If the shock mounts were not tightened enough, or have loosened a bit this could be the issue. I had 1 of mine start making some noise after installing the powerflex shock mounts. Had to remove an re-tighten. The least amount of movement in that upper mount will cause a rattle/clunk noise. Some mechanics I know advise using an impact wrench to tighten sufficiently.
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=33_1357
Last edited by Frixos; 10-12-2019 at 07:36 AM.
#23
#12 nut. And don’t use an impact wrench
as spinning the shaft is not good for
the shock. Hold the shaft with an allen
and use a thin walled offset wrench
or 1/2 inch drive socket with the
allen up through it or one of the
special sockets with an opening in their
side to tighten the nut.
#10 bolts are pretty easy to torque
properly and snugly.
as spinning the shaft is not good for
the shock. Hold the shaft with an allen
and use a thin walled offset wrench
or 1/2 inch drive socket with the
allen up through it or one of the
special sockets with an opening in their
side to tighten the nut.
#10 bolts are pretty easy to torque
properly and snugly.
#24
#25
Thank you cristo and JB160!
I had this installed by my MINI guy in town, who usually does real good work. My plan is to change the bushings since they are already en route to see if that fixes it.
Would it be worth bringing it by the mechanic to ask them to check their work/diagnose the noise?
I had this installed by my MINI guy in town, who usually does real good work. My plan is to change the bushings since they are already en route to see if that fixes it.
Would it be worth bringing it by the mechanic to ask them to check their work/diagnose the noise?