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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 06:57 PM
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Overheating but heat works

Alriht, I know that here’s tons of threads about burping the coolant but I can’t seem to get past the my R56 cooper s overheating. I replaced the gasket for the oil filter housing and replaced the coolant with new. When I refilled it the heater works and the car seems normal until it gets to operating temperature. It overheats with the fans turning on at 230 and 235 degrees but it won’t cool down unless I turn on the heater inside the car. I’ve tried burping it using the vent screw and used all methods that I’ve found in the threads but to no avail. Should I drain it and start over or does anyone have any suggestions that I can try? Everything is working as in the hoses get hot, the thermostat is opening, the lower hose does not get hot though. I’m using an obd reader to check the temperature. Any help is appreciated.
 

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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:52 AM
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Try bleeding again but this time squeeze the lower hose (closest to ground) during the process to remove the air on lower side.
That's what did it for me when the lower hose wouldn't heat up.
Make sure to have the seat heaters on full and temp on max before starting.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 10:04 AM
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Try bleeding again but this time squeeze the lower hose (closest to ground) during the process to remove the air on lower side.
That's what did it for me when the lower hose wouldn't heat up.
Make sure to have the seat heaters on full and temp on max before starting.
I’ve tried that but it still is airlocked. Would putting it so that the passenger side is higher so that the coolant would displace the air possibly work? My thinking is that the air is trapped in the one place that doesn’t have hoses, the top passenger side of the radiator. Does this sound feasible or am I fishing. My only other option is to drain it and start all over again.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2018 | 11:54 AM
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Let it cool down and then fill the expansion tank up and let it work up, feed the coolant into the expansion tank while bleeding off the screw near the thermostat. You need to just move the air bubbles around in the system with the cool down and heat back up.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 09:01 PM
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So, after spending the weekend trying to purge my mini I haven’t gotten any further than I was before I started. It does work better but still overheats if I don’t have the heat on full. I was looking at Ecs website and saw a vacuum coolant purge tool. Would this be beneficial instead of spending a week messing with the car and not making much progress? $77 bucks and I can solve a major pain. My Touareg never gave me problems like this....other problems but I could bleed it in a heartbeat.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 07:54 AM
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Is it taking coolant when you're bleeding? Could the thermostat be stuck and not allowing coolant to flow? Just a thought.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 09:33 PM
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It takes coolant and it comes out of the bleed screw. there are no leaks that I can see on top and I’ve put it on ramps to check the bottom as well. I’ll find out on Friday when the kit comes in and I can fill it with the vacuum system.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 05:00 AM
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what led to the issue/what is the back story that brought you to this issue?

did you replaced the thermostat? did you check the piping? did you check the wiring (lower plug of the TH)?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 06:31 AM
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I had an oil leak that I traced to the oil filter housing, so I replaced all of the gaskets for the oil side as well as the coolant side. I refilled the system and all was well but I forgot to put the clamp on the bottom of the coolant tank and it let go. The car showed overheating and smoke everywhere from the coolant. I refilled it as before and haven’t been able to get it to bleed after that. I know there was air in the system from me limping it home, but not sure why it’s being such a pain to bleed after.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 06:46 AM
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you verified all pipes going to the right inlets?

sometimes you gotta let it bleed almost half a gallon to clear bubbles out.

I just did mine and I let it spit all that coolant while the car was running and i was on the other end filling it. the heater was at max temp and max fan.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 11:02 AM
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That seems excessive but, no I haven’t gone to that extent. Just heating it up and cooling it down, refilling and bleeding when cool and while at temperature, and squishing the hoses to get stuff moving around. There seems to be a thousand methods and I’ve tried several and gone through about a half gallon in total but I think that a couple of times that I might have introduced air with purge valve open and squeezing the pipes allowed air that I didn’t account for.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 01:03 PM
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I pressurized the system and found a small leak in the bottom radiator hose at the plastic connector. If you squeeze it, you can hear air bubbling in. I ordered a full silicone replacement for the entire system. The previous owner didn’t care much if oil got everywhere and rotted some hoses. Thank you to everyone that chimed in their 2 cents, I really appreciate it. This car is a lot like my Touareg in that once you figure stuff out and have the right tools, this car is fairly easy to work on.....but it is a money pit.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2018 | 02:38 PM
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Most of these posts don’t have any resolution so....Allllllrighty thennnnn. Silicone hose kit didn’t fix it. I ended up replacing the thermostat housing on a whim and the lost all boost after it was all put back together. Found a hose that got disconnected during the replacement process and all was well. The overheating is gone even though the thermostat ohmed out as good and it opened and closed out of the car at about 200 degrees. The car sits nicely between 220 and 225 degrees under hard accelerations with no heat turned on in the cabin to skew top end heat. Thank you to everyone who gave their advice, it was a very frustrating process but it all worked out in the end.
 
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