1k is a lot to cough. i'm looking for just a sneeze

Well, i'll keep my head up and continue to autopsy this pump til i find a solution.

 

Exactly! Mine went out in 2008, replaced under warranty. There were tons of HPFP failures on this forum on the N14. I remember some skinflint dealers even tried the infamous "blame the customer" scam saying they used "bad gas" (whatever the hell that is) and refusing to cover it. One dude demanded they cough up a sample of the "bad gas" and they wouldn't do it lol.

 

I read some threads from BMW owners seeking to get theirs rebuilt (continental or bosch) as they sometimes had two pumps to replace at a cost of $3000+. Some vendors tried to rebuild them but were unable to source parts that were better, or even the same, reliability as the OEM. It's a scam for sure. It's not like solenoids are made from alien organs or something.

If you do find a solution, you will have many grateful people to inform here :D

 

Correct!! The mid 2012 and newer N18's have the Bosch pump. Unfortunately it's can't be modified to fit the early N18's or N14's

mQubed Motorsport, Manic Tuning Dealer

 

And here I thought I did well (got lucky) with buying a 2011 with the N18. Guess not so much if I am replacing a $1000.00 fuel pump every 30 or 40k. Do I smell another class-action lawsuit....maybe? It is a known failure point that apparently has not been remedied. Anyone know a good lawyer? LOL.

 

Some people have gotten the 2011 pump replaced under warranty via the existing class action. But if you're modified, good luck. I never even tried because my first one died at Stage 2.

 

I was told that even if you are modded the dealership won't void your warranty for the HPFP because it is such a widely known issue

 

Yep, there was 3 different versions over the N14-N18 engines. With cutoff dates.


13517588879 for early years , 13517592429 for middle years then 1351763064 for the latest models. Its discused in the thread below and here:

https://www.ecstuning.com/News/MINI_...el_Pump_22527/


https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...r56-jcw-2.html

Post #40


DIY for the early years: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...r-r56-jcw.html

 

There are three causes of failures on the early pumps.
1. The control solenoid fails.
2. The is a round disc inside with three diaphragms built into it (think Norelco electric razor) that can tear.
3. Under this diaphragm are three pistons that move. These are lubricated internally and are sealed. The seals fail and the oil leaks out at which point they seize up.

The newer Bosch pumps use a sliding piston with no diaphragm to tear and is lubricated by the engine oil after it passes thru the lash adjuster channel. So two of the three most likely failure points have been addressed.

 

And if you only change your oil every 15k then that negates addressing the third. _Never_ buy a used BMW/MINI. Even my service adviser told me that.

 

Yeh makes you wonder what hell were they thinking with 15k oil changes. I personally believe most every Mini should be on a 5k change interval. Now that Vlad is pushing over 290 horse I've dropped that interval to 3k. Fresh oil is cheap insurance.

 

I didn't see this posted anywhere so I thought I'd add, in case anyone is feeling adventurous and wants to give them a shot.

This supplier on eBay has Peugeot/Citroen fuel pump for $550.00 or best offer, including shipping from the UK.

Cross-referencing the part number from the pump above, I found one on AliExpress for $444.00 shipped.

Edit: Group buy anyone? Minimum of 10 units.

Both appear to be brand new, not rebuilt.

On another topic, I contacted my dealer about warranty on my 2010, since it was conveniently left out of the class action, and MINI told them they would do a 50/50 split on the pump, if the dealer determined that it was faulty. That would end up costing me ~$775.00, which is cheaper than a pump from any suppliers commonly mentioned on here, but quite a bit more than either of the pumps above.

 

Just received a letter in the mail from MINI extending the HPFP warranty for the N18 engine in my car. It's a 12 and they extended the warranty for 10 years 120k just like they did for the N14 models. They'll also reimburse folks who've already paid for the repair.

 

450 is still quite a bit of money...When it warms up a little, I will try swapping the solenoid to see if it is the culprit. Otherwise, we are only left with a used pump to buy off of ebay.

 

I agree 100%. Just thought I'd throw these options out there for anyone willing to take a chance with them.

I'm almost 100% positive that the solenoid is the problem on mine.

 

That's excellent news!

I just wish MINI didn't screw over us 2010 owners. Seriously MINI? It's the SAME PUMP with the SAME PROBLEMS!

 

Well, y'all did have the same deal but if you're over 120k you're kinda f'd. I will say that since having mine replaced by BMW a year ago I've had 0 issues ((knocks on wood)). The newest version is supposed to have fixed the internal issues the previous ones had. Time will tell. If you're over the mark you can contact BM'r of North America and maybe they'll work with you. N'er know!

 

I've never seen anything that mentioned the 2010 models were covered. Do you have a revised letter that shows this?

 

My HPFP failed and I was covered for free when I went to a random mini dealer (2011 MCS) I am the third owner of the car and it is way out of warentee. I hope it lasts at least another 25K miles im currently at about 89k with about 2-3k on the new pump

 

Can you scan and post the letter? Did you contact them first?

 

07-10 models were covered and N18(11+) models were not. I have no letters about earlier models, I have a 12'. You can find documentation on the interwebs regarding this or maybe a 10' owner can chime in.

 

No I did not contact them first.
I can scan it and post it in this thread sure, it'll have to wait till I get home this afternoon. It mentions that my car, 12' S, is covered up to 10 years or 120k and that they'll reimburse me if I've had it replaced on my own dime. Mine was already replaced, a rep from BMW of North America met me at the dealership of my choice and brought along the new and "improved" hpfp to the dealership. Was a super nice guy, and he replaced it quick and free with all new lines and errything.

 

There's conflicting info out there. Some articles site build dates from 07-10 but I can't find anything solid regarding the 10's. Y'all got the shaft. I'd contact MINI about it, they've got to be reasonable at least.

 

often times euro manufacturers (BMW, MD, Volvo) do stealth recalls by fixing problem parts when they break free of charge. I wouldn't be surprised if the later fuel pumps are this case. I know my 2011 was fixed free and I had absolutely no warentee. I know volvo has been doing this with new cars recently and I know BMW does as I have had it happen with some of the BMW's I have owned (3 series had a trunk release issues for a while but they all got fixed for free out of warentee)

 

Great to hear someone got one paid for that was previously installed. How long should I hold my breath for my letter