Bad Turbo?
Bad Turbo?
My 2009 MCS is only putting out 14.5 max boost. I had it tuned (Manic stg 2+) and set on the B map (I don't have the SPS switch).
After initial tune I was seeing about 20 PSI max boost sometimes 21. I have the torque app that I use to check up on things but I do not run it all the time. I've noticed that it's been a little slow here lately and running the torque app discovered max boost is only 14 psi.
Mileage on the car is 147k and I believe it still has the original turbo. It'll be 2 more weeks before I can get my mechanic to have a look but I'm trying to anticipate what the problem might be. He'll start with a leak test I'm told.
When I hear about a turbo going bad it's usually a catastrophic failure like bearings coming apart. Can it be that I have a bad turbo that's only loosing boost? I believe the stock BOV had been replaced just before I bought the at around 108,000 miles.
Otherwise all is well with the car and I've had no fault codes thrown. It's just slow compared to what it used to be.
Any idea what I might be in store for?
After initial tune I was seeing about 20 PSI max boost sometimes 21. I have the torque app that I use to check up on things but I do not run it all the time. I've noticed that it's been a little slow here lately and running the torque app discovered max boost is only 14 psi.
Mileage on the car is 147k and I believe it still has the original turbo. It'll be 2 more weeks before I can get my mechanic to have a look but I'm trying to anticipate what the problem might be. He'll start with a leak test I'm told.
When I hear about a turbo going bad it's usually a catastrophic failure like bearings coming apart. Can it be that I have a bad turbo that's only loosing boost? I believe the stock BOV had been replaced just before I bought the at around 108,000 miles.
Otherwise all is well with the car and I've had no fault codes thrown. It's just slow compared to what it used to be.
Any idea what I might be in store for?
I have a JCW turbo forsale
mQubed Motorsport, Manic Tuning Dealer
mQubed Motorsport, Manic Tuning Dealer
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
I might need it. Is it new or used? What are the implications for using this on an non JCW car?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Have you inspected the recirc valve, waste gate actuator & actuation, wastegate control solenoid under the intake manifold?
With the car off and cool have you felt for shaft play on the turbo? How does the turbine spin, smooth and free?
With the car off and cool have you felt for shaft play on the turbo? How does the turbine spin, smooth and free?
I have not done anything as far as inspection. As far as the recirc valve and waste gate actuation I probably wouldn't know how to detect a problem. Is it difficult to get at the turbo shaft to check for play? Do I need to pull the hose off the output side to check?
Just checked nkfry and there is no noticeable lateral play in the shaft however there is a little play where I can pull it in and out a mm or two. Is that normal?
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks,
Chris
Last edited by cguzz; Sep 13, 2016 at 09:15 AM.
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Will fit non JCW perfect. A tune will make it a monster
mQubed Motorsport, Manic Tuning Dealer
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
Without a tune will it at least work like a stock non JCW unit?
Thanks.
mQubed Motorsport, Manic Tuning Dealer
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
I already have a Manic stage 2+. Would I need a re-tune to run this? Is this one an k03/k04 hybrid?
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