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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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P2119 - Service Engine Light

I have 2007 MCS (R52) that has been running fine with no problems since I bought it 4 months ago.

I drover it over 80 miles yesterday with no issues, but today when I cranked it up, the EML/ASC lights came on and the car was limp with little acceleration. I check the plugs, coil and anything else that I thought might come loose and after a few minutes the car started fine.

I drove it for about 15-20 miles and on the way home the EML, ASC, and the Service Engine light all came on and the car went limp again.

I passed by a Advance Auto Parts and the plugged the diagnostic tool into the computer and it came back with an error code P2119, No DTC Definition Found. After a few mins the car started up like normal but engine light stays on.

I checked other threads and saw the following...

P2119 Throttle Actuator Control Throttle Body Range/Performance

I cannot find anything on the "No DTC Definition Found"

Is this a bad Throttle Body or something more serious?

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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 04:35 PM
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Sounds like it may be the throttle position sensor. Check the connections and check the butterfly. See if there is any carbon build up.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Braminator
Sounds like it may be the throttle position sensor. Check the connections and check the butterfly. See if there is any carbon build up.
Sorry I am little new to Mini's, but I have worked on cars.

When you say check the connection, you mean the electrical cable connected to the throttle body?

As for the butter fly, you mean when I remove the intake hose that connects to the throttle body and look at the metal flap?

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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 04:52 PM
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You got it.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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OK...Check the connection and it looks fine...the metal connectors look nice. I used the air pump and blew the connectors just in case.

The engine turned off. I had to replace the low light bulbs and after I did that about 15mins, I turned the car back on to check the light and the engine light came back on.

It's a little to dark now, so I cannot check the butterfly, plus I don't have a replacement clamp for the hose, but I will pick one up tomorrow and check it.

So don't think the throttle body itself might be bad?

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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 06:39 AM
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If the Throttle Body was the problem, would I be able to remove and clean it or I would only be able to replace it?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 06:51 AM
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Remove and clean it. You should not have to replace it.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 06:59 AM
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OK awesome thanks.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:22 AM
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OK removed the throttle bottle and clean it with one of those micro fiber rags that don't shed or produce lint that I sprayed with a Throttle Body cleaner.

The throttle body did have a little bit of carbon build up, but not too much.

I also used an air hose to clean it up. I checked the connection and everything looked good.

I installed back and turned the car on. The service engine light went away.

I have been driving now for a couple days and no issues, so only time will tell I guess.

Questions...

1 - Does the throttle body get fuel through one of the hoses?
2 - Would a new aftermarket cold air intake cause this issue? I installed the Cravenspeed CAI, which removes one of hoses that go into the intake and the back cowl.

Thanks for your help.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:40 AM
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OK removed the throttle bottle and clean it with one of those micro fiber rags that don't shed or produce lint that I sprayed with a Throttle Body cleaner.

The throttle body did have a little bit of carbon build up, but not too much.

I also used an air hose to clean it up. I checked the connection and everything looked good.

I installed back and turned the car on. The service engine light went away.

I have been driving now for a couple days and no issues, so only time will tell I guess.
Awesome.

Does the throttle body get fuel through one of the hoses?
No, it only get air through it.

Would a new aftermarket cold air intake cause this issue? I installed the Cravenspeed CAI, which removes one of hoses that go into the intake and the back cowl.
No, sound like carbon build up.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:56 AM
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Braminator...Thanks again for all your help.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:57 AM
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No problem you are welcome. I am glad it worked out for you.
 
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