Thank you I am looking forward to getting my new puppy on October 17th but I still miss my golden boy Elliott. It has been a week today that he went to heaven.

 

I had a dog Jaque, from birth to 18 years old. all of my life, he was put to sleep at 18, and I could never have another dog, I still wake up somenights and think i feel him at my feet while I sleep. Sorry for your loss....

 

I too am very sorry to hear about your beloved Golden Retriever passing away

When I was growing up I had a 14 year old German Shepard that we got when she was just a pup and it was very sad to see her pass away as she was a part of our family.

 

MJB, did you ever speak with your Service Advisor about the gear shift warning light? I think you mentioned an email...but I was hoping you'd had a phone conversation.

 

Otra,

Yes I did, I am sending you a pm to let you know what is going on.

 

Oooh, please share if you don't mind, as I think we may be facing this down the road as well. You can copy me on the PM list, if you prefer. TIA.

 

I think there are a lot of folks following this thread what would like to know what is happening with the situation. Please update for all.

 

They are going to attempt to fix my MINI if they can not fix it or it happens again after it is in for service they will replace my MINI with a new one. They are picking up my car next week. This will be time number 6 this has been going on since May forgive me for sounding so bitter.

 

MJB, thanks for posting this info for everyone. First, I'm glad to read that your dealership is standing by you on this and next I will be extremely interested to hear what they actually have to say about the issue.

 

The thing is I emailed my MA and told him I wanted a new 2009 MINI cooper they want one last try to fix this vehicle and then if it isn't fixed they will give me a new car. I have people telling me after three attempts to fix my car I could do the Lemon Law this is attempt #6 I am kind of sick of this I think they should give me a new car. I am not even asking for the money back I just want a problem free MINI cooper is that too much to ask???? Apparently it is for the dealership.

 

Heres the last bulletin regarding the Gear display on the dash. its a brand new bulletin that came out 2 weeks ago, and supersedes the previous one from june.






This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI M24 01 08 dated June 2008.

designates changes to this revision

PROBLEM
R55, R56 with F21 Transmission - Incorrect Gear Display

MODEL
R55, R56 (Cooper, Cooper S) with F21 ASIN 6-speed automatic transmission


SITUATION
The customer complains that the gear position displayed in the instrument cluster is incorrect. For example, the gear shifter mechanism is placed and displays the "D" position, while the instrument cluster shows the "N" position.

It is not possible to remove the key from the ignition while the N and D positions on the Steptronic gearshift mechanism are illuminated at the same time.

Also, intermittently the transmission warning light ("gear indicator") may be displayed when the ignition is turned off. The following fault codes may be stored in the CAS module:

• A0B1 – Input selector lever position, implausible signal
• A0B6 – Selector lever interlock signal, above threshold

CAUSE I
Possibly an incorrect adjustment of the gearshift cable at the transmission selector level

CAUSE II
Defective Steptronic gearshift assembly

SOLUTION
On a customer complaint basis, adjust the gearshift selector cable according to Repair Instruction RA24 10 018. After the adjustment is performed, the M8 tightening nut of the transmission selector lever should torqued to 12 Nm.

On vehicles produced from 03/01/08 up to 03/31/08, in case fault codes A0B1/A0B6 are stored in the CAS module, the Steptronic gearshift assembly (P/N 25 16 7 577 589) should be replaced. For the replacement procedure, refer to RA25 16 056, found in MINI TIS.

 

Wow - thank you very much! May I ask how you got this info? I can't wait to call my SA on Monday. Especially since on 9/19, I was told that they were working on a fix. Do you have the exact date on this bulletin?

 

I'm a MINI Technician
I read the bulletin on 9/22/08 and they usually add them the day they come out, so i'm pretty sure that was the date.

i thought you guys may want to see it.

 

Thank you very much also for posting that joey1320.

Displaying that latest Service Information bulletin will be extremely helpful for those struggling to get their gearshift assemblies replaced now.

 

cool
yeah is either the cables not properlly set or the assmebly itself... thats it!!!

 

Joey, thanks very much!!

 

No problema Amigo

 

Thanks so much, Joey, for jumping in here and shedding a bit more light on the situation! I have read and re-read your post (re: the latest service bulletin) several times and am still trying to clearly understand what this new bulletin means.

Specifically, for those with vehicles produced between 3/1/08 and 3/31/08 who have already had the entire gearshift mechanism replaced (such as MJB MINI and myself), am I correct in assuming that if the amber gear indicator shows up again (like MJB MINI's has), the only known/approved fix after that is to adjust the gearshift cable? (I understand that some dealers tried adjusting the cable before replacing the mechanism.) My gear icon has not returned so far, but it may only be a matter of time, considering MJB MINI's experience. I thought the issue was over and done with, but want to be prepared for what may come next. I don't blame him for wanting a new MINI at this point.

 

Joey, thank you so much for passing this information along. Last night, after a 3 month hiatus, the amber gear light showed up after we returned home from dinning out last night. Interesting it always happens with my own key, not the wife's. My wife had never seen the gear icon before.

Interesting note on the service bulletin stating that cars built during March 2008 are prime candidates to have the shifter assembly replaced. I guess MINI's quality control determined that the batch of shifters put on cars during that time are defective.

Our Clubman S was built in January 2008, so it is good to know that the issue will be taken care of by just adjusting the shifter cables and tightening the screw(s) to the recommended torque.

I will print this info and keep it handy. I think I'll setup and appointment at my dealer sometime soon.

 

I will wait and see if the problem shows up again. Like the bulletin says, if the gear icon shows up again and you have either fault codes stored in memory, your car needs to have the shifter mechanism replaced as it was built in March. It seems March builds were "Blessed" with defective shifter assemblies. All other MINI's built before or after March 2008 do not need to have the shifter assembly replaced, just have the cables re-adjusted.

I think a an internal MINI quality control audit found the shifters of March built cars more prone to failure perhaps.

 

i'm sorry but i'm not familiar with mjb's situation...

i imagine he had the symbol come on, with either fault-code present and the dealer replaced the whole unit... hummmm

if the dealer replaced the unit with another that had been built at the same time, with the same parts and issues, then i could see how it would just repeat itself. i have tried to ask the engineers and the instructors in chicago, but none has been able to tell me what exactly is wrong with the part, so i'm not sure how/why they brake, they just do. the repair call for an adjustment first and then a replacement.

I hope that his issue gets resolved and he can go back to enjoying his mini, but i can't truly say why/how his gear symbol came back. there's also a bulletin regarding the transmission wiring along the driver's side chassis, being damaged by the motor mount and/or AC line.

I was the tech who found it and i contacted PUMA, and they called me back from New Jersey asking about it and took all my info regarding what i had found. That was about 5 months back, and they just came out with the bulletin last month. So that may be an issue with his trans./gear symbol...

 

you are welcome. enjoy your r55

 

Joey, that was my position on this issue from the get go. Owners of affected vehicles that jumped on getting the shifter assembly replaced, that may have gotten the same exact defective part. This is why it is so important to take a pragmatic attitude when it comes to these things. Sometimes swapping parts does not immediately solve an issue, thus creating an even greater inconvenience to the customer.

Since our Clubman was built in January '08, all we need is to have the shifter cables re-adjusted, correct?

 

Joey, could you post that other bulletin that makes mention of the transmission's wiring along the driver's side of the chassis? I think that is great info for future reference.

Thanks a million!

 

Sure, here you go!!!
weird thing is that it says July 2008, but i had never seen that bulletin come up until last month




24 02 08 Atomatic Transmission
July 2008
Technical Service
SUBJECT
R55, R56 with F21 Transmission - Various EGS Faults Caused by Wiring Harness Damage


MODEL
R55 (Clubman, Clubman S) with F21 ASIN 6-speed automatic transmission

R56 (Cooper, Cooper S) with F21 ASIN 6-speed automatic transmission


SITUATION
The customer may complain of the following:

• It is difficult to engage the D or R gears from the Park position.
• Gear shifts are extremely harsh during driving.
• Intermittently, the transmission warning light ("gear indicator") may be displayed.

During the diagnosis, various combinations of the following fault codes may be stored in the EGS module:

• 4E21, 4E22 - Electronic pressure control valve SLT
• 4E2C - Electronic pressure control valve SLU
• 4E35, 4E36 - Electronic pressure control valve SLC1
• 4E3F, 4E40 - Electronic pressure control valve SLC2
• 4E4A, 4E49 - Electronic pressure control valve SLC3
• 4E54 - Electronic pressure control valve SLB1.

CAUSE
Possibly the transmission wiring harness is damaged and is chafing against the transmission housing; or the A/C condenser pipe or an electronic pressure valve fails intermittently.

SOLUTION


On a customer complaint basis, prior to executing the appropriate DIS Test Plan, visually inspect the transmission harness in the area close to the transmission mount, and behind the A/C condenser pipe (on top of the gear box areas indicated by #1).
If chafing is detected, the damaged part of the harness should be repaired and insulated, using a good quality adhesive tape (Wurth Black Cloth Friction Tape, article number 1985 620, may be used for this procedure).
For more information on this product, please visit www.wurthusa.com or call 1-800-WURTHUSA.
Diagnostic Hint:

If there is no defect found in the transmission wiring harness or connectors, then most likely the faults are caused by the intermittent failure of one of the electronic pressure control valves. In such a case, the valve body assembly should be replaced.

Do not replace the complete automatic transmission assembly for the complaints caused by the fault codes related to the electronic pressure control valves.