Josh:
The Electric Power Steering Pump fuse is located under the engine fuse box, fuse #FL4 (100 amp). The Electric Power Steering Pump Cooling Fan fuse is located in the engine fuse box, fuse #F08 (30 amp).
The Engine Cooling Fan fuse is located in the fuse box, fuse #F05 (5 amp), and under the fuse box, fuse #FL9 (50 amp). (yeah, I know, 2 of them -the high amp one is the juice to the fan, the 5 amp, I don't know -probably part of the control circuit.) Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, please.

agile bend: Don't get on ScottinBends case. He is trying hard to help you and he knows of what he speaks. The wiring harness is a known problem and really, really needs to be fixed -read the thread on "Engine Bay Fires" if you want an eye-opener.
The dealer (good, bad, or indifferent) has the proper fix (completely new wiring harness) as developed by MINI and the TSB makes it clear that it must be changed.
This is one fight you need to win with the dealership, otherwise it might cost you your car. Car fires can be pretty ugly, not to mention dangerous.

 

Seems some manufacturers are "forgetting" their responsibility to send a copy of each one in..... Hmmmmmm


Matt

 

Now that wouldn't be true now would it..................

 

That's kinda like "don't talk about cousin Cora outside of the family, OK? It's embarassing."

-skip-

 

that each TSB SHOULD (is required to be) sent to the NTHSA.... Fact that it doesn't get done isn't good. Fact that the staff is too overworked to do anything about it isn't good either.

Matt

 

Okay, I replaced my power steering pump fan. Fear of a fire might have gotten me to replace it but, really, it was making a kind of high pitched grinding sound when it kicked on. Loudly, I might add. My A/C wasn't working, the fan is screaming and I have a small coolant leak.

So...who wants to know the rest of the story? Online diagnostics guessing? What would you have checked, did or had done?

 

Alright,
Well I pulled the fuse box, the fuses on the top & bottom are NOT blown (I removed each one and tested). Also, the fan DOES work when the A/C is turned on. I will verify that the P/S fan is not working this weekend.

So about this "recall" for the fan wiring; does it apply to everyone, and is it free? I dont want to drive ~100 miles to my dealer and have them turn me down or charge me. I'm sure they done want to do it, but are they required to? I suppose I just want to know if I have a leg to stand on, in the case that I need one.

BTW: What temps (°C) do your MINI's run at? I know they fluctuate, but on average for 50°F-70°F ambient temps. My car seems to stay around 87°C when hwy driving.

Thanks for any input!
Josh

 

The recall should be available to all affected owners. I do know it was for the 02-03's, not sure about other years. There should be no problem getting it done, just give the dealer a call to set up the appointment and tell them that you need to have the PS fan/radiator fan TSB done.

What temps are you talking about? Coolant. Oil.

 

Same here - early 03 MCS with 42k - will they still perform the TSB at no charge?

 

yes

 

would this apply also to a ~8/03 built mcs with 59k miles?

a month or so ago, i replaced FL4 (1oo amp) fuse after accidentally switching the terminal connectors when changing the battery. after that the power steering was restored until yesterday, when it just stopped after stopping at the market. came back out to a non-power steering mini. a/c fans still turn on/off.

 

started my mini up today and the power steering is working again. so it appears the fuse is ok, but instead it's the power steering pump that's getting ready to go out.

 

Okay, I'm going to add my problem here to see if the gurus can help. I have a prob overheating especially when in stop and go traffic and with the air on. '02 mcs 35k (owned it since 10k). Don't know if it has had the tsb done or not, I will check with stealership tomorrow. I have never blown a fuse and ps works fine all the time.

I know that my fans are not working. I removed the ps fan, cleaned it and bench tested it. works fine. I checked EVERY fuse; all interior fuses(drivers foot well), all engine bay fuses (even under box). I switched several of the relays to see if that changed anything. When the car is in diagnostic mode, I checked the temp, and above 101 I can feel the fan relay click on but the voltage at the fan plug does nothing.

Technical test results:The fan plug has three wires Brown (ground) and two red w/blue (hot I assume). One red is larger than the other and has constant power to it, ignition on and off. The other does not ever change (0 volts). I tested the main fan and it ran fine when I applied 7 volts to the smaller red w/blue wire and no change with voltage applied to wire typically attached to the constant power(duh). Engine temp instantly droped 10 degrees w/fan on. I also voltage tested the red w/ blue wires under the box and they all had power. Fan does nothing when a/c is activated either. I dont know what is wrong.
Please help me as it is my wifes car and it has already overheated a couple times.

 

I'm reading all over NAM that there is a TSB for the power steering fan/ radiator fan rewire, but my dealer says there isn't and wants to charge me $600. Is it our word against his? I'm out of warranty on my '02 MC. what should i do?

 

PM some of the people who work at a Mini dealer.... They'll be able to get you the info.

Matt

 

I'm fairly new to NAM. I don't know any members who work for mini. Do you think you could point a few out? (preferably a few who wouldn't mind being pointed out).

 

The TSB does in fact exist, I was reading it yesterday and I'm trying to find the link. Even includes the instructions on how to do it, if you're feeling creative.

By the by, I spoke with Mini Cooper of Scottsdale, AZ about that TSB yesterday, speaking with one of their Service Advisors and they confirmed that the TSB does exist.

I imagine that not all dealers have the TSB .

Try again, if you think that is the issue.

 

Hmmm, very interesting. If you or anyone else could find it, that would be awesome! Iv'e been looking, but honestly, I'm not sure if I am doing a good job. Perhaps it's in your internet history from the day you looked at it.

 

As promised, here's a link to the actual TSB.

http://tech.bentleypublishers.com/se...2-6481/tsb.pdf

 

i noticed a lot of talk about a tsb for the power steering fan wiring issues. does nayone know if this applies to '04 mini's? i printed out that info and called my dealer (luckily i am about 4 miles away from one), and the service tech checked my info out and said there were not any out for my car at all. the issue is that i have had a problem with my car getting hot, luckily we watch it and stop before it overheats. occasionally the fn might come on, but for the most part not at all. replaced the thermostat and the temp sensor, no good. fan worked well for a few days then stopped again. the night before it happened the first time i drove on a bumpy calechi (dont know proper spelling here) road and am worried that the power steering fan might not work. checked all the fuses in the car as well as in the fuse box, all came up green. im lost! if that is not the problem i dont even know what to do. i guess i can replace the fan, but i feel like there is a deeper issue here and it will just cause the same thing to happen again! HELP!

 

Is it for late 2002 model with two electric sockets? (one big with 3 plugs, one smaller with 2). What's the proper steps with voltmeter(or check light) to check radiator fan motor is ok as well as registor?
thanks

 

it is a '04 so it has a single plug. i am sure we did not test ours in the proper way as the fan would work sometimes and not others. ours appears to be a problem with the bushing, but the entire unit has to be relaced. i ordered one form importec (it is after market, but a lot cheaper... $100) havent had a chance to replace it yet, this weekend we hope. since it is plug and play i am not too worried about the wiring, but taking off the front end should be a good time . should be doing it this weekend. for now when we start the car we turn up the ac and then pop the fan motor a couple of times with the butt and of a big screwdriver, works fine!

 

I still need help for my early 03 with two plugs.
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Here is my thread.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...fan-check.html