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I just bought used a MINI COUNTRYMAN 2014 All4 Auto 1.6lt 122HP (Europe) and as i found out this engine has turbo on it. The engine code is N18B16A and the car is not the S model.
I believed that this engine is a natural respiration and i was surprised when i checked the car on a BMW dealership.
I couldn't find anywhere details or specs for this engine, i can find only the specs for the non turbo engines with the same Horse Power (122) and torque around 160NM at 4500 Rpm.
I don't think that a turbo engine, even with a low pressure one, can have a maximum torque at 4500 Rpm. Do you know anything about this or any specs for this engine?
If that is a picture of your actual engine bay, you do indeed have the N18 engine. However, the N18 engine was only provided in the S model. Any more picture of your actual car and engine?
It's the simple model for sure, not the S. I attach a photo of the car and the photo of the engine is on my first message.
They told me that the engine is the same with the S model (even the turbo has the same code number as a spare part) but they reduced the horse power for tax reasons in Europe.
So the output is only 122 HP (i don't know about the torque) but with an ECU re-mapping can reach easily the HP of the S model, around 180 HP. I don't know if it is safe though for the future of the engine.
Interesting... Since it has the N18 engine, I can't imagine the internals would be any different from the higher horsepower version, but I don't know for sure. I never knew this animal existed. I see the configuration is listed on RealOEM.com https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...ni-Cooper_ALL4
We'll, clearly it's an N18 turbo if that's the picture in the first photo, as you can see the turbo.
You can get a Countryman without a turbo, using the N16 engine, but that's not what you have.
It would be weird for sure if it's a non-S car with a turbo N18 engine in it.
While it's possible to de tune an engine, it wouldn't make any sense as you could just put the N16 engine in it. mini sold tons of them.
N16 = about 121hp
N18 = about 181hp.
if you go here and enter your VIN, it will give you the build sheet for your car, including engine and power: https://bimmer.work/
I'm going to guess it's going to say N18 135kw (181hp), but will be interesting to see.
Out of curiosity, how do you know it's not a S version?
aside from an emblem on the back (which could have been removed) the only real difference is the engine, and you don't have the non S engine.
I think that silver side scuttle was only on the base model. I was hoping for a shot of the front or back to see if it has the base bumpers/grille or the S version.
Such a bizarre model if it's truly a Justa. Maybe it needs the extra torque for the AWD system over the base? But like you said, it's odd that they would detune it.
We'll, clearly it's an N18 turbo if that's the picture in the first photo, as you can see the turbo.
You can get a Countryman without a turbo, using the N16 engine, but that's not what you have.
It would be weird for sure if it's a non-S car with a turbo N18 engine in it.
While it's possible to de tune an engine, it wouldn't make any sense as you could just put the N16 engine in it. mini sold tons of them.
N16 = about 121hp
N18 = about 181hp.
if you go here and enter your VIN, it will give you the build sheet for your car, including engine and power: https://bimmer.work/
I'm going to guess it's going to say N18 135kw (181hp), but will be interesting to see.
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This is the report generated by the above site and using the car's VIN number:
Out of curiosity, how do you know it's not a S version?
aside from an emblem on the back (which could have been removed) the only real difference is the engine, and you don't have the non S engine.
I believe that there are more differences between the two versions.
For example , at least in Europe, the S model has two exhaust pipes at the back of the car, mine has only one!
Below is a photo of the car from bimmer.work , same as my car!
I think that silver side scuttle was only on the base model. I was hoping for a shot of the front or back to see if it has the base bumpers/grille or the S version.
Such a bizarre model if it's truly a Justa. Maybe it needs the extra torque for the AWD system over the base? But like you said, it's odd that they would detune it.
And one photo from the back from the site also but same as mine!
Ooo, that's super interesting. An N18 at 90kw (120hp approx).
Yeah, they must have de tuned it. Weird that they wouldn't have put the cheaper N16 in and get the same hp.
That's a unique car!
I believe that a certain batch of ''base'' Countryman were produced in Austria with the N18 engine. End of 2013 and start of 2014.
The issue is that because it's ''unique'' i can't find the specs of the engine, especially the torque/Rpm.
I can't believe that this turbo engine has 160 Nm at 4000 Rpm. The max Rpm is too high for a turbo engine.
I believe that a certain batch of ''base'' Countryman were produced in Austria with the N18 engine. End of 2013 and start of 2014.
The issue is that because it's ''unique'' i can't find the specs of the engine, especially the torque/Rpm.
I can't believe that this turbo engine has 160 Nm at 4000 Rpm. The max Rpm is too high for a turbo engine.
Anyway thanks all of you for the replies.
160 Nm is only 118 ft-lbs, which isn’t that much for a 1.6l engine… Also, 4000 rpm is not too high for a turbo engine. The N18 in my clubman will do over 6500 rpm. For a modern small displacement 4-cylinder engine, I think that’s actually low.
160 Nm is only 118 ft-lbs, which isn’t that much for a 1.6l engine… Also, 4000 rpm is not too high for a turbo engine. The N18 in my clubman will do over 6500 rpm. For a modern small displacement 4-cylinder engine, I think that’s actually low.
Thanks for the reply.
I was talking about the max Rpm that the max torque is accessed.
For example the ''simple, non turbo'' 1,6lt has 160Nm @ 4250 Rpm.
The S version has 240 Nm @ 1600-5000 Rpm because of the turbo.
So i assume that the simple but turbo version like mine it's not possible to reach the max torque at 4250 Rpm.
Anyway i will keep searching.
A big thanks to all of you!
I wouldn't worry too much about the 4,250rpm rating. Unless you can find a dyno curve, it's probably "almost" flat like the S, just with a bit of a bump at 4,250 which is why they rate it that way.
I'm still curious how your car is only about 120hp, but am guessing the turbo is a big part of that. I wonder if the wastegate is programmed so you get very little boost?
I just bought used a MINI COUNTRYMAN 2014 All4 Auto 1.6lt 122HP (Europe) and as i found out this engine has turbo on it. The engine code is N18B16A and the car is not the S model.
I believed that this engine is a natural respiration and i was surprised when i checked the car on a BMW dealership.
I couldn't find anywhere details or specs for this engine, i can find only the specs for the non turbo engines with the same Horse Power (122) and torque around 160NM at 4500 Rpm.
I don't think that a turbo engine, even with a low pressure one, can have a maximum torque at 4500 Rpm. Do you know anything about this or any specs for this engine?
Hi ,I have the same situation and I am hasitating to remape my car,
Finally, have you done it? how is the result? did you change any part ?
Thnks
Just received my log book today and it confirms that my 1.6 countryman is a turbo!!! Looking under the bonnet I could see what I thought was a small turbo but without the power in the vehicle. My body style and trim are the same as the vehicle pictured. Mine is made in 2015 but registered in 2016.
Interesting that it is a N18 engine with the possibility of tune up. Not to 180bhp but something just to make it a little warmer rather than hot
1.6 turbo Countryman not so rare!
