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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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mine is made in october 2011 so im good but yeah did not know about that.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Hujan
RennTech has a local dealer that can do the tune for me, so no need to ship it.
i talked to renntech, all the tunes are done in the florida shop, the "local dealer" removes your ECU, ships it to florida and reinstalls it when it comes back

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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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Basically I'm wondering about torque steer or traction loss/wheel slip on takeoff. You hear a lot about torque steer or the electronic traction control having to engage because the weight gets transferred to the rear as you accelerate, etc. Just wanted to know if you found yourself losing traction or getting torque steer on aggressive starts, etc.
Hmmm...I haven't had it on a track yet to gauge maximum take offs or starts. I have noticed though, some component of traction control engaging when corning fast with acceleration.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by broussardc
I talked to NM on the phone today and they didn't mention anything about build date, and he was aware it was a 2012. You may want to call and ask, but I think they have that worked out now.
Hmm. Weird. Here is my e-mail to him on 10/10/12:

Jerry,

I've been following the thread on NAM for tuning the N18 engine. It looks like you've had success tuning the N18s built before 02/2012, at which time MINI added some sort of encryption to the ECU. Have you gotten around that yet? If not, do you have an ETA?
Here was his response from that same day:

Not yet Ben... :-(

Sorry man...
 
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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i talked to renntech, all the tunes are done in the florida shop, the "local dealer" removes your ECU, ships it to florida and reinstalls it when it comes back

scott
Interesting...there's part of the reason it's more expensive.

Hujan, head to LA and maybe Farzaan and those guys have a local dyno hookup? I mean, they deal fast luxury all around...so it's worth checking out.

 
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bmwr606
i talked to renntech, all the tunes are done in the florida shop, the "local dealer" removes your ECU, ships it to florida and reinstalls it when it comes back

scott
Man, we sure are getting a lot of conflicting information from the tuners! Here is an e-mail I sent to RennTech today about this regarding HG Motorsports, an authorized dealer in San Diego:

So, can I get the tune through HG Motorsports without having to ship the ECU?
And here is RennTech's response from today:

Yes, HG Motorsports will do the tune for you at their facility the same day.
Go see Chris and he will take care of you.
Let me know if I can assist you further.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hujan
Man, we sure are getting a lot of conflicting information from the tuners! Here is an e-mail I sent to RennTech today about this regarding HG Motorsports, an authorized dealer in San Diego:



And here is RennTech's response from today:
i have no paper trace because i called on the phone ...

basically i was told that to "protect the secrets of the tuning process" all ECU tuning was done in the florida shop

some of the renntech tunes on earlier model cars are done via the OBD2 port, maybe those are done locally?

when i called, we were specifically talking about my 03/2012 build N18 motored CMS All4

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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bmwr606
i have no paper trace because i called on the phone ...

basically i was told that to "protect the secrets of the tuning process" all ECU tuning was done in the florida shop

some of the renntech tunes on earlier model cars are done via the OBD2 port, maybe those are done locally?

when i called, we were specifically talking about my 03/2012 build N18 motored CMS All4

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Man, that is weird! We were also talking in terms of my 04/2012 build N18 because that is one of the first questions I had for him. I believe you, and I know I'm telling the truth, so the culprit must be some confusion/misinformation from RennTech. Weird stuff.

If I have to send the ECU to Florida and drop an additional $350 on the tune, it makes the decision to go with ETG pretty easy. Especially because the cost of shipping the ECU was not included in the $945. (At least that's what they told me, but we all know how reliable that is.)
 
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Hujan
Man, that is weird! We were also talking in terms of my 04/2012 build N18 because that is one of the first questions I had for him. I believe you, and I know I'm telling the truth, so the culprit must be some confusion/misinformation from RennTech. Weird stuff.

If I have to send the ECU to Florida and drop an additional $350 on the tune, it makes the decision to go with ETG pretty easy. Especially because the cost of shipping the ECU was not included in the $945. (At least that's what they told me, but we all know how reliable that is.)
i am going to email renntech tomorrow, stating the confusion and asking for "the word"

i was told i pay shipping to renntech and they pay shipping back

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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bmwr606
i am going to email renntech tomorrow, stating the confusion and asking for "the word"

i was told i pay shipping to renntech and they pay shipping back

scott
Cool. Let me know. They told me the same re: shipping (I pay to ship to them, they pay to ship back) until they found out I was in San Diego and then said I could get the tune at the shop.

Maybe the explanation is that they have some authorized dealers they trust with their tunes?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Hujan
Cool. Let me know. They told me the same re: shipping (I pay to ship to them, they pay to ship back) until they found out I was in San Diego and then said I could get the tune at the shop.

Maybe the explanation is that they have some authorized dealers they trust with their tunes?
i did say i was in the chicago area, they have a bunch of dealers listed here in the metro area

i will post the reply to my email

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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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got an email fired off to renntech with very specific questions about pre/post 03/2012 ECU and where the tunes are done

i also asked about other mods and the tune, ie exhaust, downpipe, CAI etc

breathing into a brown paper bag waiting for the response

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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bmwr606
got an email fired off to renntech with very specific questions about pre/post 03/2012 ECU and where the tunes are done

i also asked about other mods and the tune, ie exhaust, downpipe, CAI etc

breathing into a brown paper bag waiting for the response

scott
Got an e-mail from someone with the local dealer here; turns out you are right. Here's the e-mail:

So unfortunately we can't tune the car in-house. We are however an authorized dealer of RENNtech and thus we can take care of you. We send out the ECU and have it back to us in 3 days ready to go.
Question I have now is whether they can do some sort of remote dyno tune, whereby the local dealer runs it on a dyno and the Renntech folks make the adjustments?
 
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hujan
Got an e-mail from someone with the local dealer here; turns out you are right. Here's the e-mail:



Question I have now is whether they can do some sort of remote dyno tune, whereby the local dealer runs it on a dyno and the Renntech folks make the adjustments?
i was talking to a friend tonight that is into racing

he says that if the ecu can't be tuned via the obd port, they probably have to open the ecu, remove a chip from a circuit board in the ecu and use an eprom or eeprom burner to change the parameters on the chip

that would explain the "kiss your warranty goodbye" statements and would also preculde a "remote tune"

he said some of the early aftermarket racing engine management systems worked this way, they came with an (optional) eprom/eeprom burner so you could tune the system

current racing systems have a port to connect a pc for tuning

scott

EDIT: NO REPLY TO MY EMAIL TO RENNTECH YET
 
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Old Oct 18, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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Wow i am definitely getting an ecu tune, just deciding on Etg or nm or rentech. Im in OC LA region so why dont we get a crew and head over together. Might even workout a discount deal!
 
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Old Oct 19, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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Hi everyone,

I have been reading and watching everyone here on NAM for the past 10 months now. I have not updated my profile or anything yet but will soon. So here it goes. I'm new to threads etc so excuse me if I'm not too saavy on the etiquette. I wanted to get to the skinny on the tune for the countryman as I did mine a few days ago with NM. I have a 2012 Countryman ALL4 S. Build date is Jan. 2012. I am located in the LA area and got the tune directly with NM. I was nervous at first being I have never done something like this before. Glad I did because the car feels like it's at home.
Just wanted to let everyone know that there's one more All4 that got the NM tune. I would def reccomend NM over all the others due to their expertise and knowledge. They're also a subsidiary of Neuspeed which is huge in the VW world. the NM shop is part of/same as the Neuspeed shop in Camarillo, Ca
 
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Old Oct 23, 2012 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GRAZ
Hi everyone,

I have been reading and watching everyone here on NAM for the past 10 months now. I have not updated my profile or anything yet but will soon. So here it goes. I'm new to threads etc so excuse me if I'm not too saavy on the etiquette. I wanted to get to the skinny on the tune for the countryman as I did mine a few days ago with NM. I have a 2012 Countryman ALL4 S. Build date is Jan. 2012. I am located in the LA area and got the tune directly with NM. I was nervous at first being I have never done something like this before. Glad I did because the car feels like it's at home.
Just wanted to let everyone know that there's one more All4 that got the NM tune. I would def reccomend NM over all the others due to their expertise and knowledge. They're also a subsidiary of Neuspeed which is huge in the VW world. the NM shop is part of/same as the Neuspeed shop in Camarillo, Ca

Any thoughts on how the car drives now compared to prior the ecu tune?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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just got confirmation from renntech, they can tune both versions of the ECU used in the countryman

all tunes are done at their headquarters, must ship ECU to them

i also got a phone number and invite to call to discuss other mods (exhaust, CAI, FMIC etc etc) in conjunction with the ECU tune

i will call tomorrow

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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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Im getting my 2012 CMS ecu tuned tomorrow with ECU Tuning Group here in LA. My car is running stock, will share the results with you guys tomorrow

1bigpea, where in LA are u from? I got my chrome trims and rear logo painted too thanks to ur videos!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kaikai114
Im getting my 2012 CMS ecu tuned tomorrow with ECU Tuning Group here in LA. My car is running stock, will share the results with you guys tomorrow

1bigpea, where in LA are u from? I got my chrome trims and rear logo painted too thanks to ur videos!
Nice! You're going to love your ride even more when you meet with ECU Tuning Group. Farzaan is a cool dude and they all know their stuff!

I'm from Michigan originally but now live in RSM and work in Irvine.

Glad the videos helped someone! haha
 
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 06:23 PM
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Nice! You're going to love your ride even more when you meet with ECU Tuning Group. Farzaan is a cool dude and they all know their stuff!

I'm from Michigan originally but now live in RSM and work in Irvine.

Glad the videos helped someone! haha
Videos? What videos?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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Videos? What videos?

Cant figure out how to embed them. Here are the links...

http://youtu.be/kcO2JpJ9VuM

http://youtu.be/JJBtx_JK4TU

http://youtu.be/XT-30CjzWdQ

 
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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I am in Irvine, if I catch a white CMS running around, I post up here

We should do a MINI meet in this area and perhaps go for a mountain or ocean view drive!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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I am in Irvine, if I catch a white CMS running around, I post up here

We should do a MINI meet in this area and perhaps go for a mountain or ocean view drive!
Sounds good!
 
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kaikai114

Any thoughts on how the car drives now compared to prior the ecu tune?
Big difference. Throttle response is quicker and the turbo spoils up quicker as well. Witt the SB on its major difference. Only issue is that I can feel it struggling for air. I have no other mods yet just the tune but I can feel it needs more air. Hoping intake and exhaust will help it breathe better. Other than that I recommend it. Getting a little better mpg's as well.
 
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