Quick update: had the stock settings in place today and threw 3 "Engine malfunction, reduced power" messages; not the funnest thing when going down a busy road. My Countryman is far from stock, so I'm trying to decide if this is a result of the default starving the engine (running lean) or the box itself running too hot based on where I mounted it. Either way, it's disconnected now and the MINI is running normal again.
Did some research on the codes the MINI threw out:
P325F - DME, internal fault Relative Fuel mass plausibility monitor
P007D - Charge-air temperature sensor, electrical: Short circuit to positive
P007B - Charge-air temperature sensor, voltage change: Too rapid
B2AAA - Unsure, seems to be a body code of some sort.
My best guess is that this tells me that the little box must be unhappy about where I put it and is overheating.
Just to give you some info on B2AAA, that's a generic Scangauge / OBDII reader code that means it can't read the actual code.
The B as you correctly assumed stands for Body. The 2 stands for Manufacturer Defined code. And the AAA dictates that the code cannot be read.
I've run into this before. You can pull the true code using INPA or ISTA-D. I'd bet money it just will show that the warning light was turned on X amount of times.
OK, had a few more trials on the box and have to say I'm quite negative about it. There's a very good chance that my overheating problems fried something, or that it's just to sensitive a box in general. Between my last test runs and yesterday I had moved the box to a cooler section inside the engine compartment but again hit a "reduced power".
I'm going to contact the dealer (in case its a bad box), but I suspect I'll just be pulling the box out and looking for another option.
This is definitely not a good situation. Ill be going down to Alta Performance in the next few weeks and trying to see if we can do something similar to the port.
This is definitely not a good situation. Ill be going down to Alta Performance in the next few weeks and trying to see if we can do something similar to the port.
I know.. The hard part with trying to figure out accessories the final questions. How many countryman's are they going to make? And is it worth the effort if there are very few being sold and made? Currently the total of countryman's is about 6000 or so. Even if there were only 10% 600 that will think about modding their car, how many of this 600 will actually go the distance and do intake, exhaust, then finally tune? 10% of that number is 60.. not worth R&D for 600 people currently. The same reason why the JCW countryman isn't coming out yet. The trend of the countryman hasn't caught on.
I know.. The hard part with trying to figure out accessories the final questions. How many countryman's are they going to make? And is it worth the effort if there are very few being sold and made? Currently the total of countryman's is about 6000 or so. Even if there were only 10% 600 that will think about modding their car, how many of this 600 will actually go the distance and do intake, exhaust, then finally tune? 10% of that number is 60.. not worth R&D for 600 people currently. The same reason why the JCW countryman isn't coming out yet. The trend of the countryman hasn't caught on.
In SoCal it has, and this market is full of people looking for fast. Sucks reading the problems that are being had though...sorry guys. There's an amazing tuner here in SoCal, definitely better than the "box".
i think that most all mini owners will be doing or having someone else modding there cars. thats what gives mini's there peronal touch. personal touches also go under the hood. im sure most all countryman owners who see or feel what a modded part does and how the owner likes it, will influence them to see whats available. we get curious people looking and asking about our countryman almost everywhere we go. the 4 doors draw one crowd and i cannot wait till the turbo psssss and rally car growl draws in the other crowd. i suspect japan will have more stuff for the countryman before we do look at duelL AG
I know.. The hard part with trying to figure out accessories the final questions. How many countryman's are they going to make? And is it worth the effort if there are very few being sold and made? Currently the total of countryman's is about 6000 or so. Even if there were only 10% 600 that will think about modding their car, how many of this 600 will actually go the distance and do intake, exhaust, then finally tune? 10% of that number is 60.. not worth R&D for 600 people currently. The same reason why the JCW countryman isn't coming out yet. The trend of the countryman hasn't caught on.
Actually, the number of R60s sold (in the USA only) is about double your estimate. In Jan-Apr 2012 alone about 5700 units were sold; that doesn't include the 2011 sales figures! In fact, the R60 is the second best selling MINI model, just behind the R56. I would expect the worldwide sales figures may show a similar pattern.
So why so slow with the aftermarket R60 stuff?
Well, there is still a huge Gen 2 market out there that can easily be sold off-the-shelf aftermarket parts. However, with slightly different suspension and the N18 motor, companies will have to invest (and, ultimately, pass on) the costs of an additional R&D effort to address the R60 market. With weak sales and a challenging business climate, is it any wonder that R&D efforts are put on hold until a stronger revenue stream can be built?
Actually, the number of R60s sold (in the USA only) is about double your estimate. In Jan-Apr 2012 alone about 5700 units were sold; that doesn't include the 2011 sales figures! In fact, the R60 is the second best selling MINI model, just behind the R56. I would expect the worldwide sales figures may show a similar pattern.
So why so slow with the aftermarket R60 stuff?
Well, there is still a huge Gen 2 market out there that can easily be sold off-the-shelf aftermarket parts. However, with slightly different suspension and the N18 motor, companies will have to invest (and, ultimately, pass on) the costs of an additional R&D effort to address the R60 market. With weak sales and a challenging business climate, is it any wonder that R&D efforts are put on hold until a stronger revenue stream can be built?
Exactly what I said.. I just took the info directly from MINI and BMW.
Just tested a Racechip Pro in my 2012 Countryman SD.
First impression , I don't feel any difference.
Then I turned on Mini Connect Driving Experiance and saw that there is only 131 Horsepower available now. Normaly the Diesel shows 148 HP.
I'm very disappointed
I will play a little with the dips now and try a higher setup.
Also I will talk to the guys from Racechip.
Keep you updated.
BTW, the price in Germany for the Pro2 is only 229 EUR, approx. 305 USD
some of the piggyback boxes / chips fool the main engine black box into thinking they have less boost than they really do. That's how you end up with even more boost. So I can believe the MINI Connect could report 10% less power when the car actually has more. In other words, I don't know if MINI Connected uses actual acceleration numbers and car mass to calculate Hp vs. just throttle position, RPM and boost to make a guess. Have you time 0-30 0-62 times before and after? Or can you feel any more low end torque?
I just installed a RC pro on my R56 . I found it a very simple install.......most of the time I spent under the hood was trying to find a good place to attach the chip.
Start up sounded a bit different....slightly lower revs and that was noticeable again after a quick stop at the store ;at restart the revs were lower. BUT the car definitely faster. Accelerates faster and you have to be careful because the RPM gets up to the 5&6k before you realize it . After the first short run I noticed the engine was hotter than usual and I could smell it , fan came on after shut off which surprised me. Second run this did not happen (Does the mini ECU 'learn' and adapt?) We can open the RC and 'fine tune' it.
I will spend some time with it and do more research.
PS I am in France : It seems to be cheaper here : I paid 265 Euros
I too just installed the race chip stage 1 and stage 3 on my countryman s and the gains are definitely there. I tested the stage 1 for a few days and then installed the stage 3 and that is the one I liked the most (currently on my car now). I will be making a new thread with before and after dyno graphs.
Here is the stage 1 (will take pics of the stage 3 tune later today):
I took the car out again for a spin this morning . The overheating and idle issues were gone.(I was a bit worried after the first run!) So I guess the main ECU made adjustments........and, I would suggest a break in period, a few short trips (15MIN) where you turn it off , let it cool, then start again.
I will really look forward to seeing the B/A dyno graphs
I advanced the left side dial by 2 .....noticed a difference BUT I also found a oil leak on the line to the turbo ........cheap piece, but a BIG job.... sob
. i suspect japan will have more stuff for the countryman before we do
look at duelL AG
Normaly the Diesel shows 148 HP.
